Is Hodgson the right man for LFC

[Zapater]

The video of his post match interview in that link shows that he's out of his depth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/9020950.stm

Hadn't seen that in it's entirety before and it really pissed me off. A Liverpool manager shouldn't be blaming outside influences and uncontrollable variables for a ****ty performance.

All of that; The Premier League is world class there are no easy games, we played well against Man Utd it's an unlucky week, you don't know what a handball is when it's in the area, defend my ****ty signing (Poulsen), disallowed goal etc boo ****ing hoo. You're a Liverpool manager if you produce **** like that atleast say that the players and team weren't upto it and that him and the squad need to work to improve rather than that massive sob story.

No responsibility, no ambition and no belief. Makes me sad. I'm not saying we need an arrogant, rude in your face manager because I wouldn't fancy that either. But Roy could atleast present confidence to the media and speak more positively rather than almost making it seem like him and the team are powerless to resist defeat or other ****ty results. Man the **** up, if you play like **** put your hand up and say that you need to work hard to put things right and improve things.

The "end the week on a high" thing from the other interview was disgusting. It was a horrible performance and a poor result against Sunderland how a Liverpool manager, or any other manager of any big or reasonably big/ambitious club can/could say that is alarming.

[alunevans]

It's also too late.

only if your prediction is right.

[alunevans]

Diomansy Kamara says Fulham's style of football and training methods were worse under Roy Hodgson than they are now.

Kamara praised new Fulham manager Mark Hughes, who replaced current Liverpool boss Hodgson in the summer, for his more attacking approach.

Fulham striker Kamara said: 'We play more attacking football now. So for me it is better. I enjoy the style of football here more now under Hughes.

On the ball: Diomansy Kamara (left) in action for Fulham against Everton on Saturday

'There is no fault with Roy Hodgson, he did really well here, but training with Hughes is better - you do more with the ball. You do more running with the ball and you are trying to score.'

Kamara is relishing the chance to play for such a highly-regarded former striker, saying: 'Who does not know Mark Hughes? He had those years at Barcelona and Manchester United. He was a great player with a lot of charisma. When you are player like Hughes, a striker, you can learn more, because he was a great striker.'

Kamara was not in favour with Hodgson, having been sent out on loan to Celtic last season. But an injury crisis among Fulham strikers has meant that Kamara is back in the first team picture for Fulham, coming on as a substitute in Saturday's 0-0 home draw with Everton.

'I was injured for the past few months but I think i have more chance now to play,' he said.

'I was on loan at Celtic and it was a good experience but I was there with Tony Mowbray and ,when he was sacked, he told me it made no sense to stay at this club. It was a good experience for me and I learned a little bit about Scottish football.'

Speaking about his injury, he added: 'Someone kicked me on the foot in the summer - a sore foot, that is it. That has kept me out until now.'

To be fair, a guy who wasn't getting picked by the former manager liking the new manager better isn't that much of a surprise and doesn't really tell us anything. By the same token, Danny Murphy thought he was great. I'm none the wiser after hearing the guy's thoughts really.

[alunevans]

While i do agree with his sentiments......just sounds like he is brown nosing his new boss after being ditched by his old one.

Yep.

[alunevans]

I think Benitez got it right then the next season things got wrong and out of his control. Alonso going and Mascherano unhappy, all his plans seemed to be wrecked before the season started. Arbeloa and Hyppia went too, which didn't help and funds to reinvest in the squad were scarce.

I firmly believe that Rafa would have won us the league last year had we kept Alonso and Sami, plus having he money to invest in two very good players. It didn't happen and we lost our way.

By the same token I firmly believe that had we replaced Alonso with Gareth Barry when he wanted to then it would have cost us a league placing or two. It's also arguably why Alonso moved on.

Besides, this isn't about Rafa. This is about Hodgson and whether he is up to the job, and in truth none of us know the answer to that after half a dozen league games.

[Shaggy]

To be fair, a guy who wasn't getting picked by the former manager liking the new manager better isn't that much of a surprise and doesn't really tell us anything. By the same token, Danny Murphy thought he was great. I'm none the wiser after hearing the guy's thoughts really.

It's a fair observation you, red g and dww have made...but still, every single Fulham player who's been interviewed since Hughes took over - every one, whether in or out of favour - has said Hughes immediately changed their approach, pushed them 15 yards further up the pitch, gave a licence to attack to the likes of Etuhu, who said under Hodgson he had no licence to do that whatsoever. It's pretty telling.

[Chris]

It's a fair observation you, red g and dww have made...but still, every single Fulham player who's been interviewed since Hughes took over - every one, whether in or out of favour - has said Hughes immediately changed their approach, pushed them 15 yards further up the pitch, gave a licence to attack to the likes of Etuhu, who said under Hodgson he had no licence to do that whatsoever. It's pretty telling.

Exactly, in every game he has us playing like Exeter away to Man Utd. It's not going to change, its the way he is. Murphy has highlighted it, and Lars Bohinen said he's a great coach but isnt sure whether his defensive style can work here.

The worst bit is we cant even defend playing defensive anyway, might aswell open up and use our strengths, the axis of Cole, Gerrard and Torres helped by Dirk, Maxi, Meireles etc.

[Fredo]

Then there's Lars Bohinen saying that Hodgson's style sucks the life out of creativity.

[erick]

By the same token I firmly believe that had we replaced Alonso with Gareth Barry when he wanted to then it would have cost us a league placing or two. It's also arguably why Alonso moved on.

Besides, this isn't about Rafa. This is about Hodgson and whether he is up to the job, and in truth none of us know the answer to that after half a dozen league games.

Not exactly!

Why did we need to buy Barry and replace Xabi? Why don't we just buy Barry and rotate Barry with Xabi and Masch? Is it Rafa's fault?

And upto this moment, do you have any +ve sign that Hodgson is up to the job?

Pls be noted that Hodgson is not a long term future, he is just a quick fix. If he cannot fix it quickly, what is his value?

[Lecter]

Nicked off RAWK (again)

The big problem is the way we are set out and the chances we have created, and how many we have against us.
Comparing the same games in the last two seasons.

2009 - 2010 2010 - 2011

Birmingham 1 - Liverpool 1 Birmingham 0 - Liverpool 0
Shots 10(3) 20(3) Shots 17(2) 17(3)

Mancs 2 - Liverpool 1 Mancs 3 - Liverpool 2
Shots 12(5) 7(2) Shots 19(5) 8(2)

Liverpool 3 - Sunderland 0 Liverpool 2 - Sunderland 2
Shots 29(9) 7(2) Shots 14(5) 10(3)

So in total in the corresponding fixtures we have :

2009-2010 2010-2011
56(14) for and 29(10) 39(10) for and 46(10)

The shots on target are not too different either way, but the numbers suggest a real difference in our pattern of play,
creating less and more chances created against us.

[Exiled_red]

Serious question:

If we mirrored Fulham's season lat year (Europe league final, 12th place in the league) do you think Roy would consider that a successful year?


I do

Anything less than 7th is a failure, I know we have sold players and 'weakened' the squad, but we had alot of injuries last year, which contributed to those problems, we should do at the very least as well as last year, anything less is a serious failure.

Edit: I'm not saying anything above 7th is a success, but if we were to finish lower than last season, that would be a serious failure IMO.

[alunevans]

No manager is a quick fix in my view. They all need 12 months to begin to stamp their mark on things.

Have I seen positive signs? Well, I'm not greatly impressed at the moment I'll accept, but people were rushing to judgements after 5 games, and that to me is pretty groundless.

I also think that he's getting criticised for stuff unfairly when there's plenty of stuff he can be legitimately criticised for. I went to town on the tactical set up after West Brom so I've been a critic too.

But sack a man after 5 or 6 league games? No, not for me.

I've said many times that I'd expect Hodgson to get us into the top 6 this season, and that hasn't changed.

But as things stand none of us know so soon into his tenure whether he's up to the job or not. I tend to think he deserves the chance to show that he is. Come back to me at the back end of November and we'll get a better sense of where we are than 5 or 6 matches in. That's all.

[alunevans]

Anything less than 7th is a failure, I know we have sold players and 'weakened' the squad, but we had alot of injuries last year, which contributed to those problems, we should do at the very least as well as last year, anything less is a serious failure.

Edit: I'm not saying anything above 7th is a success, but if we were to finish lower than last season, that would be a serious failure IMO.

agreed, but Hodgson didn't say less than 7th would be ok, one of the posters here said he thinks he'd think it. I doubt he would myself. and i don't think we'll finish in a worse league placing than last season. Time will tell.

[red g]

Anything less than 7th is a failure, I know we have sold players and 'weakened' the squad, but we had alot of injuries last year, which contributed to those problems, we should do at the very least as well as last year, anything less is a serious failure.

Edit: I'm not saying anything above 7th is a success, but if we were to finish lower than last season, that would be a serious failure IMO.

sorry mate, anything less than top 4 is a failure.
just like for Arsenal, Scum, Chelsea and City anything else than the title is a failure.

[alunevans]

sorry mate, anything less than top 4 is a failure.
just like for Arsenal, Scum, Chelsea and City anything else than the title is a failure.

given our respective wage bills these days, getting us into the top 4 will be an achievement sadly.