Is Hodgson the right man for LFC

[danperkins]

I'd agree 10 points out of 12

I think he has no chance of that frankly (which is why I'd be tempted to pull the trigger now)

Our form is shocking and frankly as you say its not as if we have had hard luck in the games, we have invariably been second best (by a long way) in most of our league games so far

On our current form not a chance of the 10 points, some tough opposition and very physically demanding games coming up that will make life very awkward for us, but we are going to click into gear at some stage, we need a spark or something to set things in motion.

I'd give Roy another 6 or 7 games before i even considered replacing him, if by then we are still giving woeful performances and not getting results well then i would agree that his position needs to be looked at and if that happens, and thats a massive if, IMO Kenny should be the man to step right in, ready made.

But IMO Roy needs at least 7 more games to put his stamp on things and get us playing.

[Fredo]

On our current form not a chance but we are going to click into gear at some stage, we need a spark or something to set things in motion.

I'd give Roy another 6 or 7 games before i even considered replacing him, if by then we are still giving woeful performances and not getting results well then i would agree that his position needs to be looked at and if that happens, and thats a massive if, IMO Kenny should be the man to step right in, ready made.

But IMO Roy needs at least 7 more games to put his stamp on things and get us playing.

Thing is, 7 league games and we could be in a relegation battle.

[Lecter]

On our current form not a chance of the 10 points, some tough opposition and very physically demanding games coming up that will make life very awkward for us, but we are going to click into gear at some stage, we need a spark or something to set things in motion.

I'd give Roy another 6 or 7 games before i even considered replacing him, if by then we are still giving woeful performances and not getting results well then i would agree that his position needs to be looked at and if that happens, and thats a massive if, IMO Kenny should be the man to step right in, ready made.

But IMO Roy needs at least 7 more games to put his stamp on things and get us playing.

7 more games is too long

4 more games puts us at the quarter season mark, I'm not sure how much beyond that I'd want to extend (frankly I'm loathe to extend it beyong today). The 5th game is Chelsea and then we have Wigan (away) and Stoke (away) and again I dont fancy those games with Roys ****ty away record

As I mentioned earlier my big concern is that once we are sucked in to a genuine relegation fight I'd question whether we have the mentality to get out of it

[danperkins]

It's not just the performances which are most glaring, it's his tactics and his lack of reaction in the dugout. As Lecter has said, he told someone who heckled him that he didn't know what to do!!

I've voted to give him time (in that other thread) but half way through our match against Sunderland on Saturday I wanted him out, so shocked I was with the formation and tactics.

I hope he proves me wrong, I sincerely do.

I get ya mate, its just not his style to jump off bench, and i think people reading too much into the biting of finger nails and rubbing of head, just nervous ticks IMO. He's been doing them for years.

But i do agree that he lacks a certain urgency at times and it does annoy me and he hasn't done himself any favours at LFC so far, but as i said to Lec i think 6 or 7 more games and then excuses are well and truly dried up.

And i sincerely hope we have some kind of turn around i really do, its getting to dire straits times

[danperkins]

7 more games is too long

4 more games puts us at the quarter season mark, I'm not sure how much beyond that I'd want to extend

As I mentioned earlier my big concern is that once we are sucked in to a genuine relegation fight I'd question whether we have the mentality to get out of it

Sure we will know more in 4 games time, by then i think it will be easier to say what course of action to take without a clear outlook of things. Lets hope for LFC's sake that we have a miraculous turnout quick smart.

Relegation will never be a problem for us mate.

[Fredo]

I get ya mate, its just not his style to jump off bench, and i think people reading too much into the biting of finger nails and rubbing of head, just nervous ticks IMO. He's been doing them for years.

He's admitted to not having a clue, I don't think it's a nervous tick. A good manager does need to have an air of authority and knowing what to do at all times, what does it mean to the players if he looks clueless?

[Lecter]

I get ya mate, its just not his style to jump off bench, and i think people reading too much into the biting of finger nails and rubbing of head, just nervous ticks IMO. He's been doing them for years.

But i do agree that he lacks a certain urgency at times and it does annoy me and he hasn't done himself any favours at LFC so far, but as i said to Lec i think 6 or 7 more games and then excuses are well and truly dried up.

And i sincerely hope we have some kind of turn around i really do, its getting to dire straits times

One additional thing that does worry me is the lack of passion and fight in the side

We have zero and lets face it we do have players who will scrap and battle (Gerrard, Torres & Carragher) but they look like ****ing whimps

Then we have the response to the heckler who suggested "put some passion in it" and Roys response of "how do I do that" that to me is ****ing terrifying

If you dont have passion or fight you've got nothing

That is the least that should be expected from a Liverpool side

I wouldnt fancy going into a relegation battle lacking one of the qualities you need

[Fredo]

Relegation will never be a problem for us mate.

Never say never. We've been heading down, not up.

[Lecter]

Relegation will never be a problem for us mate.

People claimed that Hodgson would be able to get more out of this side than Benitez did so never say never

[Shaggy]

He's admitted to not having a clue, I don't think it's a nervous tick. A good manager does need to have an air of authority and knowing what to do at all times, what does it mean to the players if he looks clueless?

Has he?

Edit - just found the interview/quote.

We're hoping for a famous win in Utrecht but it will be difficult, they are a formidable opponent. At the moment I feel out of my depth, I certainly must confess that. Certainly I'm clueless.

[Danoner Forrest]

Quote from Roy in the Daily Post:
The Anfield manager was pleased with Saturday’s 2-2 home draw against Sunderland and felt his team were unfortunate not to have claimed a much-needed victory.

Deluded, clueless and now we have to accept he is pleased with a point against Sunderland. Terrible.

[BG1973]

Should we back him or sack him.

Sack him.

His personable character and ability to talk a good game is completely and utterly getting on my tits.

[Arn]

None of us wanted Hodgson but it was one of few options that looked half way decent, he needs more time, simple. But he'd seriously wanna sort out our performances and get some points on the board. The bedding in excuse which is valid will only last for so long, i think whats getting to most people apart from the fact that we're not winning games, is the fact we are playing horribly in all of these games.

To be honest i think Liverpool F.C. haven't played free flowing, technical football in a good few years now. We most certainly weren't pretty to watch under Rafa and nothing has changed under Roy, and when you aren't winning either thats not a good thing.

Roy deserves time for sure, sacking him now is a stupid, stupid notion and isn't going to happen anyways. You could either say we were very lucky with other results on the weekend if you were an optimist Or you could say we didn't capitalize on other results if you were a realist, bit of both for me. With the likes of Arsenal playing Chelsea on weekend & with City beating Chelsea etc the big teams "will" 100% be dropping points throughout the season, there will be no clear cut leader IMO so in that respect its great for us.

But we must be winning the next 4 league games if we realisticly wanna keep the chase up on 4th place. Anything other than 3 points against Blackpool is a disaster.

Can't agree with that at all. We scored more goals than anyone else(all competitions) the 2007-08 season playing some excellent pass and move football. We played even better the 2008-09 season when we scored the most goals in the PL. The way we played at the end of the 2008-09 is the best I have ever seen an English team play. We totally outplayed team after team home and away playing even better than Barcelona. Pass and move even better than Arsenal do.

I will never understand how someone can say that we never played any good attacking football with Rafa in charge when the truth is that we played some excellent fantastic attacking football for months. The problem was that Rafa couldn't get that fantastic excellent attacking football last a whole season. Fantastic football for a few months then a dip for a month or two when we suddenly played **** then better and better again.

[red g]

Has he?

Edit - just found the interview/quote.

[red g]

Quote from Roy in the Daily Post:
The Anfield manager was pleased with Saturday’s 2-2 home draw against Sunderland and felt his team were unfortunate not to have claimed a much-needed victory.

Deluded, clueless and now we have to accept he is pleased with a point against Sunderland. Terrible.

houiller-esque in his delusions.

WHat compounds it is match of the day which made us look like miles the better team.

For anyone who went or watched the game we were not.