Is Hodgson the right man for LFC

[DannyMan2006]

I think this team with minimum disruption from injuries and a fit and on form Torres should easily challenge for 4th. If they don't the manager has failed.

In fact that with the right circumstances this team is nor far of the ability to challenge for the title.

Anything less than 6th is a complete failure IMO, whatever the circumstances, barring a nightmare injury crisis of course.

[Kenneth]

I think this team with minimum disruption from injuries and a fit and on form Torres should easily challenge for 4th. If they don't the manager has failed.

In fact that with the right circumstances this team is nor far of the ability to challenge for the title.

Anything less than 6th is a complete failure IMO, whatever the circumstances, barring a nightmare injury crisis of course.

I think you're delusional, tbh.

[alunevans]

Replying to dww:

That's all fair comment. He wasn't my choice, and the way we set out against West Brom was enough to make me feel more than twitchy.

That aside, like you say he seems to have made two good signings in Cole and Meireles, a dud in Poulson by the looks of it, and with Konchesky he was obviously looking to just get a full back in quickly.

You're right that he didn't solve the striker issue, but then that's been left unsolved for ages now, and in truth was created by Rafa selling strikers that he had no replacement for.

Likewise the issue in terms of wide players was something that has been on the table probably since Macmanaman so I'm not expecting Hodgson to come in and suddenly sign a really good winger when nobody else did, and given that he's not got much to spend.

I do think there is a bit of a witch hunt against the fella (not referring to you here of course). People are desperate to give him it with both barrels. Criticism is fine if valid, but there's also a lot of criticism which is very unfair and suggests an eagerness to just have a pop.

I didn't want Roy. I felt Kenny was the best appointment given that new owners would want their own man, and I felt he would have got everyone a bit excited just at the romance of it which would have given us all a much needed lift.

I also don't agree with appointing a manager who doesn't have the backing of the fans because such managers never get any time should things start a bit shaky. As we have seen.

But Roy is here. I doubt he is the utter calamity everyone says he is. I reckon we'll finish top 6, and anyhow, he deserves more than 5 games before we get people yelling sack him.

He's certainly not done enough to persuade a sceptic to back him I agree. But the sceptics aren't just staying sceptical. They're wanting Liverpool Football Club to sack a manager after just five games (which is when the calls first started).

I don't think he was left that strong a hand but I also think he's strengthened the hand he had in the way he's so quickly brought in Meireles when we could have been left with just Lucas and Poulson.

I can't help wanting Roy Hodgson to be bloody brilliant for us, not just because it would mean LFC doing well which is what we all want, but I'd hate us to be a club that gets on a managers back so soon and then forces him out. I really don't want those who think its fair to sack a man after 5 games to be proven right, much as I understand a lot of their early frustrations.

[Shanks]

I've never seen so many sad looking faces...

[Vermilion]

Well they're hardly likely to say otherwise. I can't imagine that Agger is really that happy at the moment for a start.



Aye really ****ty. He left us with four truly world class players in Reina, Mascherano, Gerrard and Torres (three of which he signed himself), and countless other internationals like Agger, Kuyt etc. Really ****ty of you Rafa!
Obviously everything wasn't perfect but let's please stop repeating what the media want us to believe.

[Shaggy]

I've never seen so many sad looking faces...

Is that the first non-Photoshopped version in ages?

[alunevans]

I've never seen so many sad looking faces...

How wide apart are Babel's legs????

[Arn]

You're right that he didn't solve the striker issue, but then that's been left unsolved for ages now, and in truth was created by Rafa selling strikers that he had no replacement for.

He had to sell strikers to be able to sign Torres. Sell before you buy. It's better to sell someone in the same position than selling a midfielder and sign a striker for example.

He had no other option than to sell Bellamy for example because Bellamy is Bellamy a troublemaker.

He had no other option than to sell Keane because he didn't fit into the system and we needed money to pay the loan.

Crouch refused to sign a new deal so he had no other option than to sell him.

[Shanks]

Lucas and Babel both thinking,

"Why are we even bothering with this, It'll be out of date come February"

[Arn]

Rafa also left Roy with top class Academy. He could have saved £6m and played Shelvey instead.

Then used the £6m and sign a striker.

He could have acted in a better way when we tried to sell Masch. Instead he told one of the interested teams to more or less **** off. That left Barca as the only interested team. Great Roy, just great. A couple of millions more lost because you acted like an idiot. No bidding war.

He could have kept Insua instead of signing Konchesky. £5m more to sign a striker. Now he suddenly got £11m.

Roy only have himself to blame that he couldn't sign a striker, no one else.

[Fredo]

Rafa also left Roy with top class Academy. He could have saved £6m and played Shelvey instead.

Then used the £6m and sign a striker.

He could have acted in a better way when we tried to sell Masch. Instead he told one of the interested teams to more or less **** off. That left Barca as the only interested team. Great Roy, just great. A couple of millions more lost because you acted like an idiot. No bidding war.

He could have kept Insua instead of signing Konchesky. £5m more to sign a striker. Now he suddenly got £11m.

Roy only have himself to blame that he couldn't sign a striker, no one else.

[dww]

You're right that he didn't solve the striker issue, but then that's been left unsolved for ages now, and in truth was created by Rafa selling strikers that he had no replacement for.

The thing is that being as Rafa only wants to play one striker while we didn't have variety I think Ngog as the tactical replacement for Torres and Kuyt as an option in an emergency was acceptable. Roy wants to play a different way and sometimes with two strikers - as such he made the need greater and still didn't address it.

Likewise the issue in terms of wide players was something that has been on the table probably since Macmanaman so I'm not expecting Hodgson to come in and suddenly sign a really good winger when nobody else did, and given that he's not got much to spend.

I think Riera was gave us exactly what we needed in his first season. He wasn't a great player but he did balance the team. Selling him without a tactically similar replacement seems a bad decision to me.

It also seems like Roy has the likes of Maxi cutting in far too much - agains making the problem bigger.

I do think there is a bit of a witch hunt against the fella (not referring to you here of course). People are desperate to give him it with both barrels. Criticism is fine if valid, but there's also a lot of criticism which is very unfair and suggests an eagerness to just have a pop.

I didn't want Roy. I felt Kenny was the best appointment given that new owners would want their own man, and I felt he would have got everyone a bit excited just at the romance of it which would have given us all a much needed lift.

I also don't agree with appointing a manager who doesn't have the backing of the fans because such managers never get any time should things start a bit shaky. As we have seen.

But Roy is here. I doubt he is the utter calamity everyone says he is. I reckon we'll finish top 6, and anyhow, he deserves more than 5 games before we get people yelling sack him.

It's an interesting point. Perhaps a manager with the full backing of teh fans would find it easier to motivate the players.

He's certainly not done enough to persuade a sceptic to back him I agree. But the sceptics aren't just staying sceptical. They're wanting Liverpool Football Club to sack a manager after just five games (which is when the calls first started).

I don't think he was left that strong a hand but I also think he's strengthened the hand he had in the way he's so quickly brought in Meireles when we could have been left with just Lucas and Poulson.

I can't help wanting Roy Hodgson to be bloody brilliant for us, not just because it would mean LFC doing well which is what we all want, but I'd hate us to be a club that gets on a managers back so soon and then forces him out. I really don't want those who think its fair to sack a man after 5 games to be proven right, much as I understand a lot of their early frustrations.

That is entirely reasonable. I certainly think calls for him to be sacked are premature.

[Fierce]

Rafa also left Roy with top class Academy. He could have saved £6m and played Shelvey instead.

Then used the £6m and sign a striker.

He could have acted in a better way when we tried to sell Masch. Instead he told one of the interested teams to more or less **** off. That left Barca as the only interested team. Great Roy, just great. A couple of millions more lost because you acted like an idiot. No bidding war.

He could have kept Insua instead of signing Konchesky. £5m more to sign a striker. Now he suddenly got £11m.

Roy only have himself to blame that he couldn't sign a striker, no one else.

Is this a serious post?! You've been missed Arn!!

So, played '18yrs old, previously playing in the Championship' Shelvey instead of who?

Better way with Masch?! That's just nonsense mate. He told anyone that Masher could go for the fee we want. Presumably you're talking about Inter, who offered £8m and Sully bloody Muntari?! Bad Roy, bad bad Roy

Insua was rubbish.

Although I do agree on the striker issue, the way we scratched about on the last day of the window was ridiculous

That said, we have no idea what financial restrictions were imposed, so to suggest its Hodgson's fault given the ownership issue is a little unfair IMO

[Dalglish]

He was never meant to be better than Rafa in general, just better than Rafa last season. You know as well as most other supporters that Roy is a stop gap.

"Better than Rafa last season" is such a ridculous argument too. Takes no account of Rafa's work from top to bottom in the club.

[Fredo]

Fans who never backed his appointment in the first place will hardly back him now. He needs to be doing much better if that's going to be the case. For one, I'm against rebuilding jobs as I know that we're going to go through a period of disruption, then transition again. What is the point of it?

Fans calling for the head of our former manager at the end of last season were as wrong as the ones calling for Hodgson's head now.