I hope you're proud of yourselves

[Craig_H]

This is for all of you complete fools who helped hound Rafa out of the club, you know who you are.

You are all directly responsible for the utter mess we're in on the pitch now.

You brought this on, and I hope you feel proud of yourselves

How would you feel about feeling 7th now you idiots? You'd all jizz in your pants for a 7th place finish now wouldn't you?

If you'd all been sensible enough to see the bigger picture back then and get behind Rafa he'd still be here. H&G couldn't find a way to force him out until you lot all turned on him. The second the fans turned he was gone in a flash.

If we'd backed him we'd still have one of the best managers in the world at the club, new owners, and positivity all around the club, Rafa would finally have been able to go for his first choice signings etc.

Instead we're in the worst shape since prior to Shankly and you're directly to blame for it

New owners, but until Roy's gone well.........IAFN.

I think you're a class poster pablo mate but this is a nonsense post i'm afraid.

As i said in another thread, if Rafa had managed to balance his feelings against the owners with a recognition of the position he held at the club, he'd still be here now.

The owners sacked him because he exposed them and wouldnt stop. He made their life awkward and in the end, you could see just how much they hated it because they were in it just for money, yet still managed to bring themselves to parting with £6m to get rid - that's how badly they wanted him gone.

Do you really think the owners sacked him because some fans lost faith?

Since when did Cunt and Cunter ever do what the fans asked of them?

[Craig_H]

All of you that are disagree with me are missing one crucial point here:

- When we sacked Rafa the club was in a huge mess and no decent manager wanted in.

Those of us with a few braincells knew that a manager as **** as Roy was all that was affordable/realistic if we chose to sack him. It was always going to be a managerial downgrade due to the state of the club at that time.

If you're all honest you all hated Rafa so much at the time you just ignored this simple fact as you were so desperate to get rid of him.

Losing the plot mate.

[Daniel 7]

paul_tomkins Paul Tomkins
Inter's best start defensively since 1988/89 (3 conceded in 7 games), and Eto'o on 12 goals already. #justsaying #notsayingbringbackrafa

[RedReet]

I think you're a class poster pablo mate but this is a nonsense post i'm afraid.

As i said in another thread, if Rafa had managed to balance his feelings against the owners with a recognition of the position he held at the club, he'd still be here now.

The owners sacked him because he exposed them and wouldnt stop. He made their life awkward and in the end, you could see just how much they hated it because they were in it just for money, yet still managed to bring themselves to parting with £6m to get rid - that's how badly they wanted him gone.

Do you really think the owners sacked him because some fans lost faith?

Since when did Cunt and Cunter ever do what the fans asked of them?

And so would they most likely. If Rafa didn't put his neck on the line to expose them for what they were, most people would probably have no choice but to beleive the crap spouted by G&H and Sky Sports and actually beleive that we've spent $50m net per year since they took over etc.

[Eric Swindler]

Nobody hounded him out. His going was entirely of his own doing, just as it will be with Hodgson.

[RichC]

And so would they most likely. If Rafa didn't put his neck on the line to expose them for what they were, most people would probably have no choice but to beleive the crap spouted by G&H and Sky Sports and actually beleive that we've spent $50m net per year since they took over etc.

When you put it like that and actually have a think about it he really did take one for the team so to speak.

I've said it a few times though once the 4th place promise was made those knives were being sharpening as any chance to get rid was going to be taken, I think Thicks sob story on Sky proves his thoughts on Rafa!

[Craig_H]

And so would they most likely. If Rafa didn't put his neck on the line to expose them for what they were, most people would probably have no choice but to beleive the crap spouted by G&H and Sky Sports and actually beleive that we've spent $50m net per year since they took over etc.

Very much doubt that. Maybe the average Sky-watching Spurs fan would've fallen for it, but our fans watch our games and can see that replacing Mascherano with a Poulsen, is ****. They could see that we were turning a profit, one window after another.

Ultimately, the yanks went because they didnt have the money to pay back RBS - that would've been the case regardless of whether Rafa made veciferous attacks against the owners or not.

[Arn]

Very much doubt that. Maybe the average Sky-watching Spurs fan would've fallen for it, but our fans watch our games and can see that replacing Mascherano with a Poulsen, is ****. They could see that we were turning a profit, one window after another.

Ultimately, the yanks went because they didnt have the money to pay back RBS - that would've been the case regardless of whether Rafa made veciferous attacks against the owners or not.

You shouldn't look in the Swedish Liverpool forums. Rafa got the blame for EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING. If someone posted a positive post about Rafa then he was hounded out very quickly. Some fans even blamed him when he donated money to charity saying that he did it only because of his big ego

[Craig_H]

You shouldn't look in the Swedish Liverpool forums. Rafa got the blame for EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING. If someone posted a positive post about Rafa then he was hounded out very quickly. Some fans even blamed him when he donated money to charity saying that he did it only because of his big ego

No offence to the Swedish fans, but fans who watch every single game and know how to analyse, knew the reality.

[Arn]

No offence to the Swedish fans, but fans who watch every single game and know how to analyse, knew the reality.

The problem with that is that you then rule out say 99% of the fans.

[little dave hedgehog]

my mother is always proud of me, and she said i should always be proud of myself.

so yes.

[Craig_H]

The problem with that is that you then rule out say 99% of the fans.

Ok, every single game was a daft example, but i'm going more on the kinda folk who watch highlights and form their judgements.

Either that, or the people you referred to, are just clueless.

[RedReet]

Very much doubt that. Maybe the average Sky-watching Spurs fan would've fallen for it, but our fans watch our games and can see that replacing Mascherano with a Poulsen, is ****. They could see that we were turning a profit, one window after another.

Ultimately, the yanks went because they didnt have the money to pay back RBS - that would've been the case regardless of whether Rafa made veciferous attacks against the owners or not.

Sorry, can't agree at all. I'll explain why tomorrow when I sober up.

[Craig_H]

Oh no, no need. You just won me over

[Arn]

How did we go from last year expecting to get points in every game to this year to this season not expecting to beat any team?