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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    Fair points but we knew Berbatov was a class act, just a lazy *******, and Nani was showing a hell of alot more progress and promise than Babel, two similiar players. Nani went one way Babel went the other.

    Glen Johnson was young and English and was horribly over priced, it was common knowledge that Johnson was not a particularly good defender but Rafa bought to boost the dynamics down the right so he over paid for Johnson, IMO a defender should be able to defend first and foremost, it is clear from all of last season (apart from first 7 games where Johnson was class) that Glen cannot defned to save his life, zero positional sense and awareness as a defender hence so many cries to move him up to RM. He has been a liability for us and hasn't even provided much in an attacking sense either which is meant to be his strongest asset.

    As for Aqua, Rafa said Aqua would have cost us £30 million quid if we bought him uninjured, considering Aqua had done nothing of note since U21 Italy we got royally screwed on the fee, as Rafa was deeply so engrossed in the Alonso saga and getting his way over Real Madrid, that time elapsed, there was hardly any other options available and Aqua was a last minute risky buy.

    Guy hadn't completed a full season in 6 years, had only 11 caps for national team and plus we bought him injured. We didn't him properly until Late November i think, by then we were languishing horribly and we missed Alonso's create spark so much and we had nobody to step in as Aqua was injured or Rafa was protecting him, so we had to put up with the joys of Masch/Lucas partnership, the least creative partnership since Poulsen/Lucas.

    Think Aqua was on £85,000 a week too so i've read (figures add up on Roma books) and we spent £19.4 million on him last season alone, and for what exactly? he was just not cut out for English football and was always going to move on.

    Aqua won't be coming back thats for sure and if Johnson keep playing the way he has been well then i can't see him being here much longer either, well certainly not at RB.

    Aqua was a flop no matter how much its justified, sure we all agreed that Keane was a flop he only got 6 months and was made an example out of by Rafa in the Rafa vs Parry war, thats like us saying Keane would have turned heads if he had still been with us. Johnson will have to go along way to change people's opinions of him but thus far now into his second season he has been a flop, massive money spent on this guy.
    Sorry to nit pick. But that crap about the Italian national team doesn't sit right with me. When you have the best deap lying playmaker in the world for his time and the best defensive midfielder for his time (Gattuso and Pirlo), as well as De Rossi coming up after Gattuso, who can really be suprised that a 25 year old hasn't had many opportunities in the national team.
    96 Never Forgotten

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      Originally posted by Lecter View Post
      Rafa Benitez

      "Northampton are a formidable opponent"
      Roy Hodgson
      You just can't do anything but laugh.
      If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
        "I have come here to win, and my players have to have the same mentality."

        "I am young, I want to win lots of matches and in the right way. I hope the players think like us that it is possible to win titles.

        "I want the supporters to be proud of the team, of the manager, of the players, of the club."
        Rafael Benitez


        “Are people suggesting that we should be doing the same as Arsenal, who have had the same team together for the last six years and Chelsea, who have just won the league?

        “If so I would accuse them of being unrealistic at this moment in time.
        Roy Hodgson


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        “When you see the supporters and how the club works it is like a religion to them. We will try to do our best to bring more trophies back for them.”
        Rafa Benitez


        “This is a new team, there are four or five new players. We finished seventh last season so I don’t understand why it’s suggested we should be comparing ourselves every day with Chelsea or Manchester United at this early stage of the season.

        “It will be nice if we can get there. We will see but I certainly don’t make that demand upon the players.”
        Roy Hodgson

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        When they start talking and talking about us, it shows they are worried about playing Liverpool,”
        Rafa Benitez

        "Northampton are a formidable opponent"
        Roy Hodgson

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        “No, I'm not thinking about a draw. We're going out to win.”
        Rafa Benitez



        "It was a good point because we knew it was going to be a tough game. (Referring to a draw against a mid-table Dutch side)
        Roy Hodgson

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        Never call me the special one!"
        Rafa Benitez

        "To suggest that, because I have moved from one club to another, that the methods which have stood me in good stead for 35 years and made me one of the most respected coaches in Europe don't suddenly work is very hard to believe.
        Roy Hodgson

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        “To work hard and have our supporters behind us and believing until the end, you run a little bit more.”
        Rafa Benitez

        "The protest does not help but it is something I have had to live with since I came to the club,"
        Roy Hodgson

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        “I have a lot of confidence in the team, maybe Milan are favourites -- they have a lot of good players -- but we have confidence and we can win.” (Referring to one of the best teams in the world at the time)
        Rafa Benitez


        To get a result here would have been Utopia (Referring to Everton)
        Roy Hodgson

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        I picked the team which I felt was right for the game and I have no regrets about that. In the first half Burnley were better than us but in the second half we were better. The bad thing is we conceded a poor goal and it was then always going to be difficult for us to score on a bad pitch against a team that was fighting for everything.
        Rafa Benitez - refuses to blame youngsters after Burnley loss

        "These players have to accept responsibility. I accept responsibility for changing a lot of players in the team, I did it because I honestly thought the players I put on the field were good enough to win the game and they weren't.
        Roy Hodgson - lays into youngsters after Northampton loss
        It must have been obvious half way through that this probably wasn't worth the time it was taking.
        Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
          Mr Blobby was the highest selling single one week, and number 1 - just because lots of people thought so, doesnt make it the best song.

          As for watching the performances, i would hazard a guess that i see a lot more Liverpool games than you do.




          Gone - and who let him go? Wasnt rafa.

          Maxi is an argentine international and a technically proficient player, for free - of course he's a good signing.

          And Kyrgiakos' performances have been excellent value for the £1.5m. And you say i'm the one not watching the games?

          As i said, you're a teenager who plays FM too much. Unless a player is Messi, he's ****.


          And whatever you might think of players, and the notion that 'Rafa didnt sign a good player in his last 2 years at LFC:

          IT IS STILL YOUR OPINION - IT IS NOT A FACT.
          So when does it become a fact, how many bad performances does it take and even being sold on before it becomes a fact, or we could just use your view when its always just an opinion, whatever suits mate.

          Haha mate i'm 30 by the way so don't patronise me with condescending bull**** you've been spouting, your ultra opinionated and can't accept anyone else opinions who disagree with you. I haven't missed a competitive LFC game in over a decade mate, maybe more. On the off chance that i don't see it live, i'll always look at it later. No point in in this mine is bigger than urs horse****.

          Aqua is gone because he failed and no other reason, he was never needed in the first place. Maxi has done **** all, he was on a free because he hasn't played well in years, since he joined LFC he has been woeful, and free? He took a wage reduction but i bet he gets over £50 grand a week, my cocker spaniel can run around like an idiot for 90 mins too.

          Kyriagkos is a ****ebag, good in the air and thats about it. Enough said about him, wouldn't say he was a good signing. The fact that you are mentioning him shows how much of a struggle it is to pick successful signings out of Rafa's last 3 years.

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            Originally posted by Operation View Post
            It must have been obvious half way through that this probably wasn't worth the time it was taking.
            I enjoyed it.
            If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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              Originally posted by Fernandinho View Post
              Sorry to nit pick. But that crap about the Italian national team doesn't sit right with me. When you have the best deap lying playmaker in the world for his time and the best defensive midfielder for his time (Gattuso and Pirlo), as well as De Rossi coming up after Gattuso, who can really be suprised that a 25 year old hasn't had many opportunities in the national team.
              Pepe only has 20 caps for Spain, doesnt mean ****.

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                Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                So when does it become a fact, how many bad performances does it take and even being sold on before it becomes a fact, or we could just use your view when its always just an opinion, whatever suits mate.

                Haha mate i'm 30 by the way so don't patronise me with condescending bull**** you've been spouting, your ultra opinionated and can't accept anyone else opinions who disagree with you. I haven't missed a competitive LFC game in over a decade mate, maybe more. On the off chance that i don't see it live, i'll always look at it later. No point in in this mine is bigger than urs horse****.

                Aqua is gone because he failed and no other reason, he was never needed in the first place. Maxi has done **** all, he was on a free because he hasn't played well in years, since he joined LFC he has been woeful, and free? He took a wage reduction but i bet he gets over £50 grand a week, my cocker spaniel can run around like an idiot for 90 mins too.

                Kyriagkos is a ****ebag, good in the air and thats about it. Enough said about him, wouldn't say he was a good signing. The fact that you are mentioning him shows how much of a struggle it is to pick successful signings out of Rafa's last 3 years.

                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                  Originally posted by Fernandinho View Post
                  Sorry to nit pick. But that crap about the Italian national team doesn't sit right with me. When you have the best deap lying playmaker in the world for his time and the best defensive midfielder for his time (Gattuso and Pirlo), as well as De Rossi coming up after Gattuso, who can really be suprised that a 25 year old hasn't had many opportunities in the national team.
                  You can knit pick all you want, if Italian players are playing in Italy they get preference over Italian players playing in a different country just their way. If Aqua was that good or "fit" we would have seen him more than 11 times.

                  At £19.4 for one season and with what he gave us/or didn't give us fofr that matter, do you think Aqua was a good signing for LFC?

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                    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                    So when does it become a fact, how many bad performances does it take and even being sold on before it becomes a fact, or we could just use your view when its always just an opinion, whatever suits mate.

                    Haha mate i'm 30 by the way so don't patronise me with condescending bull**** you've been spouting, your ultra opinionated and can't accept anyone else opinions who disagree with you. I haven't missed a competitive LFC game in over a decade mate, maybe more. On the off chance that i don't see it live, i'll always look at it later. No point in in this mine is bigger than urs horse****.

                    Aqua is gone because he failed and no other reason, he was never needed in the first place. Maxi has done **** all, he was on a free because he hasn't played well in years, since he joined LFC he has been woeful, and free? He took a wage reduction but i bet he gets over £50 grand a week, my cocker spaniel can run around like an idiot for 90 mins too.

                    Kyriagkos is a ****ebag, good in the air and thats about it. Enough said about him, wouldn't say he was a good signing. The fact that you are mentioning him shows how much of a struggle it is to pick successful signings out of Rafa's last 3 years.
                    Danperkins. I would love for you right now, to tell us who would would have bought with the advantage of hindsight if you were Rafa. You had 1.5 mil to spend on a CB who needed to be aerially dominant. You had 2 mil to spend on a striker instead of Ngog. And no more money to spend on a right mid (maxi) and a left forward (jova) just to name a few. Tell me with the advantage of hindsight who would you have bought?
                    96 Never Forgotten

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                      Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                      Pepe only has 20 caps for Spain, doesnt mean ****.
                      If Pepe was playing for Real or Barca he would have a hell of alot more caps.

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                        Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                        So when does it become a fact, how many bad performances does it take and even being sold on before it becomes a fact, or we could just use your view when its always just an opinion, whatever suits mate.
                        How good a player is, never 'becomes' fact - it's all completely subjective. That's why they are opinions, and not fact.

                        Your lack of understanding here, is not surprising.

                        Haha mate i'm 30 by the way so don't patronise me with condescending bull**** you've been spouting, your ultra opinionated and can't accept anyone else opinions who disagree with you. I haven't missed a competitive LFC game in over a decade mate, maybe more. On the off chance that i don't see it live, i'll always look at it later. No point in in this mine is bigger than urs horse****.
                        You're the one who asked about whether i was watching the performances. 30 eh? Who knew....

                        I can certainly accept differing opinions. I cannot accept people calling their opinions 'facts'.

                        Aqua is gone because he failed and no other reason, he was never needed in the first place. Maxi has done **** all, he was on a free because he hasn't played well in years, since he joined LFC he has been woeful, and free? He took a wage reduction but i bet he gets over £50 grand a week, my cocker spaniel can run around like an idiot for 90 mins too.
                        Nobody who fails to see the value in having technically proficient players, is clueless about football and symptomatic of why England are so ****. No understanding about the value of technique and intelligence.

                        Kyriagkos is a ****ebag, good in the air and thats about it. Enough said about him, wouldn't say he was a good signing. The fact that you are mentioning him shows how much of a struggle it is to pick successful signings out of Rafa's last 3 years.
                        Sums up how clueless you are. And a joke of a Liverpool 'supporter'.

                        You probably thought Hyypia was a ****ebag too. After all, he only cost £2.5m.

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                          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post


                          Danperkins is a typical 'sky' fan, players have to be 'flashy' and 'trendy', expensive and do step overs - otherwise they're no good.
                          Lets be honest, Rafa bought a couple quality world class players.... but it took him buying about 90 useless players to find them! instead of selling 5-10 ordinary players and bringing in 5-10 ordinary players he should have brought in 2 top players for the same amount of money. The squad was way too big and filled with ****e. Quality rather than quantity i say.

                          Obviously without that idiot Parry ****ing things up it could have been different. I also think Rafa should have done more of the player scouting himself.
                          YNWA

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                            Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                            If Pepe was playing for Real or Barca he would have a hell of alot more caps.
                            Is that another of your famous 'facts' ?

                            And you know where Pepe used to play, dont you?

                            Daft of me, of course you dont. Because Sky dont talk about it.

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                              Originally posted by Fernandinho View Post
                              Danperkins. I would love for you right now, to tell us who would would have bought with the advantage of hindsight if you were Rafa. You had 1.5 mil to spend on a CB who needed to be aerially dominant. You had 2 mil to spend on a striker instead of Ngog. And no more money to spend on a right mid (maxi) and a left forward (jova) just to name a few. Tell me with the advantage of hindsight who would you have bought?
                              Its all Football manager stuff mate, maybe if we hadn't spent the likes of £7 million quid of Andrea Drossena more funds would have been available for a CB? Its a relative.

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                                Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                                Aqua is gone because he failed and no other reason, he was never needed in the first place. Maxi has done **** all, he was on a free because he hasn't played well in years, since he joined LFC he has been woeful, and free? He took a wage reduction but i bet he gets over £50 grand a week, my cocker spaniel can run around like an idiot for 90 mins too.
                                You'd have preferred Lucas and Mascher then?

                                Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                                Kyriagkos is a ****ebag, good in the air and thats about it. Enough said about him, wouldn't say he was a good signing. The fact that you are mentioning him shows how much of a struggle it is to pick successful signings out of Rafa's last 3 years.
                                This is nonsense. I can't believe you've watched him play if that is your genuine opinion
                                I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
                                There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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