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**Rich** · 19-10-10, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by danperkins View Post

I agree that the service to Torres has been shocking and the tactics are isolating him but he has been a shadow of the player we all know him to be. Everything about his game is off and his attitude and demeanor is one of a guy who just has given up, although he is most certainly not alone in his poxy form, think because he's world class we expect that much more from him. I'll be shocked if he is still here in January.

But is there any wonder?

Tell you what - imagine Barca switching to a sit deep, pump it long system, with Messi the target man. You reckon he'd look good?

**danperkins** · 19-10-10, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Rich View Post

But is there any wonder?

Tell you what - imagine Barca switching to a sit deep, pump it long system, with Messi the target man. You reckon he'd look good?

I agree that the tactics are killing him, we also have zero width and no service coming in from wide areas which makes our play one dimensional and makes distribution to Torres predictable and easy to defend against.

Saying all this and knowing that he is clearly very frustrated, he has been shocking. His touch,control,balance,pace,strength,attitude & most of all his work rate has disappeared. He is throwing a strop, he might be right but not the way to go about it.

**Mattshark** · 19-10-10, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by danperkins View Post

I agree that the tactics are killing him, we also have zero width and no service coming in from wide areas which makes our play one dimensional and makes distribution to Torres predictable and easy to defend against.

Saying all this and knowing that he is clearly very frustrated, he has been shocking. His touch,control,balance,pace,strength,attitude & most of all his work rate has disappeared. He is throwing a strop, he might be right but not the way to go about it.

And his work rate is gone because he is isolated and receiving no support. This is what we call cause and effect.

**Shaggy** · 19-10-10, 01:41 PM

At today's press conference Rafa has been asked about what's happening to us.......

I'll type it up in a minute. Sounds like he's gone off on one again

**Chris** · 19-10-10, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Shaggy View Post

Torres is being asked to play an alehouse frontman role. Like taking a Rolls Royce rallying or something. Absolute joke. I know it's a totally different kettle of fish but I've played up front on my own in an absolutely wank team with a clueless manager, and it's ****ing frustrating. Sure his attitude hasn't been great but he's being asked to chase ****ty, hopeful long balls and we're creating nothing for him. Nearly ****ing Halloween and I don't think he's gone through on goal once under Hodgson. Not once. We could have the real Ronaldo in his prime up front and he'd look wank.

Exactly, he was a sulky crock last season aswell yet scored 18 league goals in 20 starts and 2 sub apps. This manager just hasnt a ****ing clue, I dont think Bill Kenwright could have done a better job at deliberately picking someone to be so bad.

**Rich** · 19-10-10, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Shaggy View Post

At today's press conference Rafa has been asked about what's happening to us.......

I'll type it up in a minute. Sounds like he's gone off on one again

Hope he gives them what for!

**The_weatherman** · 19-10-10, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by danperkins View Post

I agree that the tactics are killing him, we also have zero width and no service coming in from wide areas which makes our play one dimensional and makes distribution to Torres predictable and easy to defend against.

Saying all this and knowing that he is clearly very frustrated, he has been shocking. His touch,control,balance,pace,strength,attitude & most of all his work rate has disappeared. He is throwing a strop, he might be right but not the way to go about it.

This number 1,2 and 3 IMO, the tactics lead to the team sitting very deep and taking ages to get forward and if they do hoof it Torres is alone so he can hardly win the header and chase after it as well. We need to win the ball further up the pitch and apply pressure to the other teams like we used to.

I am concerned that Roy will divide the squad even further with his accusatory comments, unsuitable tactics and crazy interviews.

**Buzzo** · 19-10-10, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Shaggy View Post

At today's press conference Rafa has been asked about what's happening to us.......

I'll type it up in a minute. Sounds like he's gone off on one again

Rafa witha bee in his bonnet sat in front of the assembled press!
Always a fantastic sight.

I miss you Rafa.

**Shaggy** · 19-10-10, 01:46 PM

"White liquid in a bottle has to be milk"

"I prefer not to talk about this because I really feel sorry for the fans. I was really sad for the fans after the defeat the other day. We have a saying in Spanish - "white liquid in a bottle has to be milk". What do I mean by this? Well, this means that after 86 points and finishing 2nd in the league, what changed? The Americans. They decide and choose a new Managing Director.

"The Managing Director is involved in all the decisions. All of them. New lawyer, new chief of press, new manager, new nine players, new medical staff, new fitness coaches - they changed everything. So, they changed Managing Director, and then everything changed. We changed everything we were doing in the past. So, if you ask me what's going on - they changed some things, and in the end they changed everything.

"White liquid in a bottle - milk. You know who to blame."

**Pablo** · 19-10-10, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Shaggy View Post

"White liquid in a bottle has to be milk"

"I prefer not to talk about this because I really feel sorry for the fans. I was really sad for the fans after the defeat the other day. We have a saying in Spanish - "white liquid in a bottle has to be milk". What do I mean by this? Well, this means that after 86 points and finishing 2nd in the league, what changed? The Americans. They decide and choose a new Managing Director.

"The Managing Director is involved in all the decisions. All of them. New lawyer, new chief of press, new manager, new nine players, new medical staff, new fitness coaches - they changed everything. So, they changed Managing Director, and then everything changed. We changed everything we were doing in the past. So, if you ask me what's going on - they changed some things, and in the end they changed everything.

"White liquid in a bottle - milk. You know who to blame."

He's referring to Purslow right?

**Shaggy** · 19-10-10, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Pablo1981 View Post

He's referring to Purslow right?

Yup.

**Craig_H** · 19-10-10, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by 5europeancups View Post

mate you are totally representative about what is **** about the modern day Liverpool supporter with posts like this. I would hope that Liverpool FC make decsions based on facts not based on muppets booing at the end of a game or personal attacks on the manager.

This is the problem with modern football fans. They feel as though they are owed the moon on stick. Being a Liverpool supporter used to be about supporting the team theough thick and thin, not about trying to influence the board. People should take a closer look at Shankly's record. Contrary to belief he didnt win the league every single year.

I'm not defending Hodgson's record but I am not going to start targeting a guy who is clearly with the best intentions trying to do his best for Liverpool.

what staggers me is that I have not seen one single criticism of Fernando Torres.

Coming from the biggest Gillett and Hicks cheerleader on the internet, i think only a picture can sum up what i think of you and your posts:

**Kenneth** · 19-10-10, 01:52 PM

Well that's mostly gibberish

**red g** · 19-10-10, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by Shaggy View Post

"White liquid in a bottle has to be milk"

"I prefer not to talk about this because I really feel sorry for the fans. I was really sad for the fans after the defeat the other day. We have a saying in Spanish - "white liquid in a bottle has to be milk". What do I mean by this? Well, this means that after 86 points and finishing 2nd in the league, what changed? The Americans. They decide and choose a new Managing Director.

"The Managing Director is involved in all the decisions. All of them. New lawyer, new chief of press, new manager, new nine players, new medical staff, new fitness coaches - they changed everything. So, they changed Managing Director, and then everything changed. We changed everything we were doing in the past. So, if you ask me what's going on - they changed some things, and in the end they changed everything.

"White liquid in a bottle - milk. You know who to blame."

But white liquid in a bottle could be spunk

**peekay** · 19-10-10, 01:54 PM

"Hopefully they will win some games. The transfer window is two and a half months off and there is a lot of football to be played, so there is no point in us in trying to put our eggs in the basket of the January transfer window."

Shanklyesque.

Hopefully that is not the basket our owners will put the eggs in.

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