Pack your bags Roy

[DannyMan2006]

For example, I heard a rumour of Van Gaal the other day. I assumed that was bollocks, but he's hardly man of the moment at Munich so them letting him go and bringing in the other fella wouldn't totally shock me.

Unlikely mind.

[Ben_Itez]

Read the post about the 7.30pm board meeting and got excited as there was another two pages added to the thread.....seems i've prematurely got my hopes up AGAIN!!

[wavydavy]

Benitez had won one of europe's elite leagues twice.

Spot on mate. La Liga's only been won by a team outside the "Big 2" 3 times in 30 years or something. Deportivo (I think) and Rafa twice. That said, I still think Rafa represented "an unknown" to most of our supporters and the UK/ World in general. 'parrently Ralf steered Shalke04 to within a nats dick of the Bundesliga. So your average Kraut could argue he's scarcely "unknown" either.

[wavydavy]

i'd venture as far as saying it's pretty rare that a great player goes on to be a great manager as well.

You could argue Zoff, Beckenbauer, Carlos Alberto etc. But thats at national level where your basically stuck with your lot, be it good or bad. Still takes talent but much stands or falls on the ****e you're able to pick from at the time. At club level? I'm struggling. Truly great as a player and manager at club level. Any offers?

[fah-q]

You could argue Zoff, Beckenbauer, Carlos Alberto etc. But thats at national level where your basically stuck with your lot, be it good or bad. Still takes talent but much stands or falls on the ****e you're able to pick from at the time. At club level? I'm struggling. Truly great as a player and manager at club level. Any offers?

Dalglish

[wavydavy]

Dalglish

Great player -resounding yes
Great manager- 4 league titles would normally do the trick but left a wealth of riches by Joe and IMO, with signings like Carter and Speedie, actually initiated the decline of LFC as a club even though we were top when he left Managerial career fizzled out a bit though didn't it?

[Craig_H]

And then also bought won the title at Blackburn.

[wavydavy]

And then also bought won the title at Blackburn.

I included that in "4 league titles"

[Craig_H]

fair play.

It's hard on kenny, because if we'd been in europe, he'd have probably/possibly won the European Cup too.

[wavydavy]

fair play.

It's hard on kenny, because if we'd been in europe, he'd have probably/possibly won the European Cup too.

indupitably more than once too! We could well be sittin on 8 or 9 ECs now. We were the only English team to "qualify" for European Competition every year of the 7 year ban. We suffered more than anyone.

[sean_lfc]

Hoffenheim are the German 'Chelsea'. Bankrolled by SAP. They bought the club, regarded it as an 'investment into the local region', which is why they were able to build stadiums and buy players no problem. Although they're built up in a different way, without SAP's chairman's involvement, Hoffenheim would be still lingering in obscurity.

Don't know anything further about Rangnick and I'm sure it's complete bollocks anyways. Just thought I'd throw this into the mix either way.

[Fivex]

Just waiting on my mate to get back to me, pretty sure when he lived in Germany last year Hoffenheim were his local team...

[sean_lfc]

Just waiting on my mate to get back to me, pretty sure when he lived in Germany last year Hoffenheim were his local team...

I live just around the corner lOl, but I hardly follow German football

[Cormack74]

For example, I heard a rumour of Van Gaal the other day. I assumed that was bollocks, but he's hardly man of the moment at Munich so them letting him go and bringing in the other fella wouldn't totally shock me.

Unlikely mind.

Perhaps not too unlikely:

Think it was Jan Molby who said it and believe his view was that LVG would be very interested if approached.

[marcus50bucks]

Liverpool set to delay search for Roy Hodgson successor as prospect looms of Kenny Dalglish return

Exclusive: Liverpool’s owners are so determined to end Roy Hodgson’s reign as manager that they are now prepared to delay the search for his long-term successor until the summer and install a caretaker until June, raising the prospect of an emotional return to the club for Kenny Dalglish.

By Rory Smith 10:00PM GMT 01 Jan 2011

Despite Saturday’s last-gasp win against Bolton, Hodgson’s persistent failure to elicit consistent results and performances from his team, as well as the breakdown of his relationship with the club’s fans, has convinced Fenway Sports Group to bring forward their initial plan to review his position in the summer.

Even after deciding they must act swiftly to replace the 63 year-old, the group’s principal backers, John W Henry and Tom Werner, had hoped to make the first managerial appointment of their reign a permanent one. They are believed to have examined the credentials of a number of candidates, including the Porto manager Andre Villas Boas and Marseille’s Didier Deschamps.

The difficulty and cost associated with enticing the right long-term appointment midway through the season, however, has now forced FSG to rethink their strategy, with the group now thought to favour introducing an interim manager before installing their preferred candidate in June.

Liverpool’s fans made clear their belief that Dalglish should be handed the position, in the short-term at least, during Wednesday night’s defeat to Wolves, offering ironic chants of “Hodgson for England” and singing the Scot’s name. That Anfield yesterday recorded its lowest Premier League attendance since 2004 — just 35,400 watched the game — is an equally telling statistic.

Dalglish had hoped to be offered the manager’s job, which he occupied between 1985 and 1991, after the dismissal of Rafael Benitez last summer, informing the club’s then hierarchy that he would happily take charge until owners to replace the despised regime of Tom Hicks and George Gillett could be found.

It is likely that, with Liverpool marooned in mid-table despite beating Owen Coyle’s side, Dalglish would be prepared to take the post on a similarly temporary basis. Certainly, should FSG decide to install a caretaker other than the Scot, they are likely to face a backlash from an already unsettled fan-base.

Hodgson, for his part, remains committed to fighting for his post and yesterday indicated he felt he retained the ongoing support of Henry and Werner, though his remarks were anything but conclusive.

“I guess so,” replied the Liverpool manager when asked whether he believed he retained the faith of the club’s owners. “I spoke to the owners before the game. They wished me well for the game and sympathised with the frustration I felt after the defeat to Wolves.

“I do not know if this was a game we had to win, but we certainly had to play well. I know about all of the negativity but it does not affect me. If we had won on Wednesday night we would be right up there and I would be being asked about the Champions League. Because we did not, I am being asked about the negativity.” The 63-year-old is rather more adamant on the subject of his relationship with his players, with FSG believed to be concerned at his apparent failure to coax better form out of the likes of Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard.

“I know when players are behind a club and behind their manager,” he said.

“And I know when they are not. Anyone who seriously suggests after watching us play in these six months that there are any problems on the front is being dishonest. I am satisfied that the team gave the performance they want, I want and the fans want.”

Telegraph