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Hodgson “I think it’s only fair that I be judged as Liverpool manager when all the defeats are as a result of the players I have brought to the club.”
“People will say I’ve taken a team that finished 7th and put them into a relegation fight, but I’ve had to do that with someone else’s players.”
“Just think of the mediocrity I could produce if given enough time and money.”
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A lot of our players said the same thing. If you want to win the league then either you give the manager a lot of money to spend or less money but more time to build up the Academy and take it step by step.Originally posted by dww View PostAye, good point.
It is certainly unhelpful when you look at the squad we have. Players like Kuyt and Maxi can chip in with goals and in the right set up be creative too. Rafa was all about the team being more than the sum of it's parts.
That said Rafa was also prone to talking about the need for more '£20m players'.
That is really the two only options. What a club need is top class players and a top class manager. If they don't have that then it is more or less impossible to sign up other top class players if you don't do it the Chelsea or City way and pay sky high wages.
If we lose Torres for example then it will be more or less impossible to replace him because other top class players will see that our squad isn't good enough and even a player like Torres that love the club had to leave because a lack of ambition.
To have a winning ambition and be prepared to do that little bit extra to win is a must. To be prepared to pay £30m for a top class player if he is available. To show that winning is more important than money as long as it is within the budget and don't put the club at risk.
Winning must be the number one priority. That is what attract top class players.Stop the cyberhate

from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a 
Susan Black
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Is this the same Hodgson that was going to improve what we had and get more out of the squad.
Poor Roy maybe they are not as good as he thought they were, or more probably they don;t think he is as good as he thinks he is._____________________________________
Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
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Are you Chris on RAWK by any chance?Originally posted by Lecter View PostNicked off RAWK
I honestly think he thought that when he took over he'd timed it right.
A Club that had previously been 2nd, 3rd, 3rd had just come 7th with most of the same players. His key players were fit and he couldn't do any worse than 7th. Hence the most important thing in all of this, his reputation, could only be enhanced.
As things have move on, he's realised his reputation is now in tatters, he's a laughing stock and he's lashing out all over the place. Rafa, Purslow, the players, the fans and god knows what else.
Now he's gambling. He's on his way out so he has to start propelling the myth that he needs HIS players there now, that the players who had come 2nd, 3rd, 3rd were actually not good enough to get top half and he's been hard done to.
Do one Roy.

Forbes knows best... FACT
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In case you missed it, Alonso wasn't here last season, so Benitez was also without him, not just the old **** HodgsonOriginally posted by Torres View PostI agree with most of what you say, but to say that he has the same group of players is pushing it a bit. He's without Alonso and Mascherano, two massive players, he's without the extra striker (Keane, short stay yes but he was still here for half the season) and he's without Arbeloa, who is a far better defender than Johnson. Leaving us a striker down was Rafa's decision, he reduced the number year by year.
In 2008/09 we had a group of players that were good enough for a top 3 place and we finished 2nd, partly in my opinion due to Scolari's appointment at Chelsea.
Hodgson has a group of players left which are really not good enough to finish in the top 4, maybe even top 6. Mascherano and Alonso were huge players for us, you cannot just get rid of players like that and expect the team to continue with the same tempo.
Personally, I don't rate Roy. Having said what I have about the quality of the current squad, we are still underperforming, but if he gets us to the end of the season in the top 6 I don't think anyone could do much better with the pile of ****e we have here at the moment. Whether he could steer us into the top 6 is the question.
And the "pile of ****e" we have sent more players to the World Cup than any other league club. The reduced standard of the squad in recent times is entirely down to Hodgson's crap signings and lending out better players
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Originally posted by Redspin View PostIn case you missed it, Alonso wasn't here last season, so Benitez was also without him, not just the old **** Hodgson
And the "pile of ****e" we have sent more players to the World Cup than any other league club. The reduced standard of the squad in recent times is entirely down to Hodgson's crap signings and lending out better players
EVERYONE that thinks that a sixth or seventh place finish is good enough also agrees with Rafa should never been sacked.Stop the cyberhate

from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a 
Susan Black
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8 of the '****e' players were in the team that beat the Mancs 4-1 at OT & Real Madrid 4-0Originally posted by Redspin View PostIn case you missed it, Alonso wasn't here last season, so Benitez was also without him, not just the old **** Hodgson
And the "pile of ****e" we have sent more players to the World Cup than any other league club. The reduced standard of the squad in recent times is entirely down to Hodgson's crap signings and lending out better players
It's all down to Woy.What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins
Batman
F*** off!!!
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Not many links, but a great read on Michael Laudrup:
look for his comments on Kuyt, vary damning and let's you know the type of qualities he looks for. He's a football purist and talks in glowing terms about Aggers ability to be calm and bring the ball out from defence.
His teams play 4231, possession football based on 1and 2 touches. The wide forward players act as wingers. Very entertaining football.Forwards.......
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We also had Heart and Desire. Lost under Benitez last year and definiteyl not found by the bodgeOriginally posted by Redspin View PostIn case you missed it, Alonso wasn't here last season, so Benitez was also without him, not just the old **** Hodgson
And the "pile of ****e" we have sent more players to the World Cup than any other league club. The reduced standard of the squad in recent times is entirely down to Hodgson's crap signings and lending out better players_____________________________________
Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
Think we have the answer..Slot!!



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Must be a good manager if he can get 12 players on the pitchOriginally posted by DannyMan2006 View PostNot many links, but a great read on Michael Laudrup:
look for his comments on Kuyt, vary damning and let's you know the type of qualities he looks for. He's a football purist and talks in glowing terms about Aggers ability to be calm and bring the ball out from defence.
His teams play 4232, possession football based on 1and 2 touches. The wide forward players act as wingers. Very entertaining football.
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That's what I call a great manager!!Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View PostNot many links, but a great read on Michael Laudrup:
look for his comments on Kuyt, vary damning and let's you know the type of qualities he looks for. He's a football purist and talks in glowing terms about Aggers ability to be calm and bring the ball out from defence.
His teams play 4232, possession football based on 1and 2 touches. The wide forward players act as wingers. Very entertaining football.
Fielding 12 players.
"Justice has been done."
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Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View PostNot many links, but a great read on Michael Laudrup:
look for his comments on Kuyt, vary damning and let's you know the type of qualities he looks for. He's a football purist and talks in glowing terms about Aggers ability to be calm and bring the ball out from defence.
His teams play 4232, possession football based on 1and 2 touches. The wide forward players act as wingers. Very entertaining football.
I remember the Kop being full of stories how we were going to sign hm while i was growing up.
Legend of a player and would certainly tick many of the boxes required by FSG._____________________________________
Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
Think we have the answer..Slot!!



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You can say that again
Just eff him off already.
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