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    Originally posted by Lecter View Post
    “I remember saying at the start of the season that we will do very well if we get into the top half of the table by 19 games, because by then we’ll have got a bit of discipline and organisation in our game and the philosophy I’m preaching will be better understood,” said Hodgson.

    Read more: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...#ixzz1A1ZYMW4d
    Here is a picture of one of the lads haveing to watch reruns of his classic side of the 80's and how to play 4-4-2.

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    Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

    Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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      He talks as if we have spent the past few years near the bottom of the league!!

      We have a decent team with good players. They massively under-achieved last season by finishing 7th let alone what we have seen this season.He needs to at least take some responsibility for what has happened instead of inferring that he has a useless squad that Rafa built.
      jc - after the live score and the best Soccer Blog online

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        Arn mate is there any chance that we could try and keep this thread at least mostly about Roy.

        At the minute I think too many threads in the LFC forum are being turned into subsections of the same tedious arguments with the same posters regurgitating the same opinions (with occasional interludes of petty name calling).
        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
        -- William Blake

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          Bloody hell and I thought I loved/rated Rafa.
          Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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            Originally posted by dww View Post
            Arn mate is there any chance that we could try and keep this thread at least mostly about Roy.

            At the minute I think too many threads in the LFC forum are being turned into subsections of the same tedious arguments with the same posters regurgitating the same opinions (with occasional interludes of petty name calling).
            Aww, let him continue. At least Arn's posts are amusing even if they're not intended to be

            Until this forum gets back to what it once was then Arn's posts are a shining beacon of comedy amongst the ****fest that the site has turned into. I'd much rather chuckle about Rafa being 'man enough to do that' than have to skim through 42 pages of the exact same people insulting each other

            Arn
            I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
            There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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              Originally posted by Fierce View Post
              Aww, let him continue. At least Arn's posts are amusing even if they're not intended to be

              Until this forum gets back to what it once was then Arn's posts are a shining beacon of comedy amongst the ****fest that the site has turned into. I'd much rather chuckle about Rafa being 'man enough to do that' than have to skim through 42 pages of the exact same people insulting each other

              Arn
              Thanks
              Stop the cyberhate


              from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

              Susan Black

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                Originally posted by Fierce View Post
                Aww, let him continue. At least Arn's posts are amusing even if they're not intended to be

                Until this forum gets back to what it once was then Arn's posts are a shining beacon of comedy amongst the ****fest that the site has turned into. I'd much rather chuckle about Rafa being 'man enough to do that' than have to skim through 42 pages of the exact same people insulting each other

                Arn
                Me too. I just want him to do it in a thread where it doesn't get mixed in with the other ****
                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                -- William Blake

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                  Originally posted by dww View Post
                  Arn mate is there any chance that we could try and keep this thread at least mostly about Roy.

                  At the minute I think too many threads in the LFC forum are being turned into subsections of the same tedious arguments with the same posters regurgitating the same opinions (with occasional interludes of petty name calling).


                  It is only when other fans comes out with the same old Sky imagined up **** that I get upset.

                  I wish that they could see the whole picture. The reasons behind why he signed a lot of players and so on and not just look at, he bought a lot of cheap players and then don't care to find out why.
                  Stop the cyberhate


                  from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                  Susan Black

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                    Originally posted by red g View Post
                    isnt it also reality that we are probably the 6th biggest spenders over the last few years as well??? although last few years we have brought a profit in haven't we?

                    to be fair Aquiliaini was only bought becuase he was cheap? think we only paid 5million up front? also GJ was cheap as we had money owed? could still ahve spent better like.........
                    We've actually paid about £18m for Aquilani (over the course of 12 months)

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                      Originally posted by red g View Post
                      Here is a picture of one of the lads haveing to watch reruns of his classic side of the 80's and how to play 4-4-2.

                      Is that Wayne Rooney?

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                        Originally posted by Fierce View Post
                        Aww, let him continue. At least Arn's posts are amusing even if they're not intended to be

                        Until this forum gets back to what it once was then Arn's posts are a shining beacon of comedy amongst the ****fest that the site has turned into. I'd much rather chuckle about Rafa being 'man enough to do that' than have to skim through 42 pages of the exact same people insulting each other

                        Arn
                        Completely agree! Always have been, always will be
                        Like blood on iron

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                          Originally posted by danperkins View Post


                          Yeah, sure we can hardly string 5 passes together without getting a nose bleed. I think if we got someone in who actually had a footballing philosophy, Liverpool F.C. would spontaneously combust

                          How good would it be to actually watch us knock the ball around in a pass and move method like Barca/Arsenal, Heaven! In that system i think there would definitely be some bag packing from certain players.
                          Check out our first goal against Bolton although unfortunately it does involve your friend Johnson.
                          If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                            From Yesterdays Daily Post

                            Liverpool FC Roy Hodgson argues for change of boss at Liverpool FC
                            Jan 3 2011 By Ben Thornley

                            OF all the voices who have argued for a change of management at Anfield this season one man has consistently made the most compelling case – Roy Hodgson.
                            There has never have been a Liverpool boss as universally disliked by supporters as the Londoner.
                            But it’s not just the regressive tactics, awful signings (Christian Poulsen and Paul Konchesky) and pitiful away form (six defeats in nine games with a goal difference of -10) that has turned the Kop against him.
                            Liverpool supporters have become accustomed to their managers being equally skilled as orators, a trend begun by the great Bill Shankly. Even the quieter men among the club’s roll call of bosses like Bob Paisley could be relied upon for cutting sound bites.
                            Not Hodgson. Barely a press conference goes by without the former UAE coach embarrassing himself and the club, alienating a player or enraging fans.
                            Here is a collection of the worst efforts of his first – and hopefully only – six months in charge:

                            I preferred to put my weight behind David Ngog and Ryan Babel, who's never really been given a proper chance at centre-forward at the club. I'm hoping that between now and Christmas we'll have ample quality to see us through that period.
                            On not buying another striker

                            A club like Liverpool shouldn't have to rely on non-specialists like Dirk Kuyt or Ryan Babel ‘doing a job’ up front when they are primarily wide players.
                            Hodgson changes his mind a month later.

                            They'll be a formidable challenge – there's no question about that.
                            On Carling Cup opponents, struggling League Two side Northampton

                            I thought we did quite well when (Northampton) they took the lead in the extra time and we threw caution to the wind it gave us the equaliser.
                            Hodgson uses the words ‘threw caution to the wind’ about playing a League Two side. At Anfield.

                            That was as good as we have played all season..... To get a result here – against Everton – would have been Utopia.
                            After the wretched loss to Everton

                            I know Sir Alex (Ferguson) is not really a Liverpool man so I’m a bit concerned about my excellent relationship with him.
                            I sincerely hope he forgives me for moving north and hopefully we can have a glass of wine together, maybe in secret.
                            Hodgson endears himself to Liverpool fans everywhere

                            I prefer to talk about the game and talk about issues that interest me. Mr Ferguson is entitled to any opinion he wants to have but I'm not going to come here and say I agree or disagree.
                            Hodgson refuses to defend Fernando Torres against accusations of cheating

                            I understand (Frank) Rijkaard has just been sacked from Galatasaray – he must be a great manager to have been sacked by Galatasaray.
                            'Nice guy' Roy on the Champions League and La Liga winning manager

                            You would have to ask (Glen Johnson) 'do you think you're playing at top form and are you playing like the best right-back in the country for your club?' If he says yes, obviously we will have to agree to differ and if he says no, then you'd have to ask the question 'why not?
                            Showing his man-management skills

                            The protest does not help but it is something I have had to live with since I came to the club.
                            Criticising the fans’ protest against the club’s former owners

                            I was disappointed – and I've told him this – that he – Dalglish – applied for the job in the summer because I don't think that was ever really going to happen for him.
                            Putting Liverpool legend Dalglish in his place, a man who has won more trophies than Hodgson has Premier League away games in his entire time in England

                            I've been involved in some big derbies in my career and you know how much they mean to the fans.... I didn't like losing in those games, which I did quite often. I did poorly so it would be nice to change that.
                            Hodgson shows he’s the man for the big occasion before losing 3-2 to Manchester United.

                            He’s a quality player and we will be working hard on our tactics to make sure he doesn’t dominate the game.
                            No, not Lionel Messi, rather Fulham’s Danny Murphy, who was sent packing by Liverpool six years ago.

                            I think it would be a sad day for football and for Liverpool if someone who had been brought in with the pomp and circumstance, and the money it took them to release me from my previous contract, and being feted as one of England's best managers – if after eight games people are deciding this guy has got to go
                            Showing his modest side.

                            Are you from Denmark? (No, Norway replied the journalist) Ah, two countries I never want to work in again.
                            Insulting a Norweigian journalist and a large part of Liverpool’s fan base.

                            We have got a lot more expensive failures on our list than good players that we have brought in for next to nothing.
                            Having a dig at Champions League winning former Reds boss Rafa Benitez and his transfer record

                            What do you mean do my methods translate? They have translated from Halmstad to Malmo to Orebo to Neuchatel Xamax to the Swiss national team. So I find the question insulting. To suggest that, because I have moved from one club to another, that the methods which have stood me in good stead for 35 years and made me one of the most respected coaches in Europe don’t suddenly work, is very hard to believe.
                            Reeling off some of the massive clubs he’s managed. Not so much a who’s who of European football as a who are they?

                            Today was a famous victory
                            No, not Liverpool’s win in Istanbul but a 1-0 triumph over Bolton at the Reebok.


                            There aren't many quality left-backs around in the world, never mind in England – so to find an English one ( Paul Konchesky) who can go straight into the team without any adjustment problems is a big advantage.
                            Hodgson, who sold Roberto Carlos to Real Madrid while manager of Inter Milan, knows a good left back when he sees one.


                            Christian (Poulsen) is an all-round player. He is capable of scoring goals, a good passer of the ball and a good defender.
                            After paying £4.5m on the 30-year-old plodder.

                            He's not that bad on the ball.
                            After seeing him play.

                            It is very early for me to make very strong judgements about where his best position is.
                            Hodgson shows the depth of his research on £11.5m signing Raul Meireles, who has played his entire career in central midfield. Until he came to Anfield.

                            I don't understand questions about Liverpool and Fulham players being different types
                            Who said Hodgson doesn’t grasp how big a club Liverpool is?

                            I've had several bad experiences. Even at Halmstad in the 70s, in the year we won our second championship, it took until the second half of the season to win our first game away and that broke a record going back two seasons. We went over two seasons without winning an away game.
                            On his wretched away form throughout his career.

                            Fans make their frustrations felt every time we lose, but unfortunately they may have to do that a few more times, because I can't see us going through a season winning every game.
                            Roy promises the good times are going to roll again after the 2-0 defeat to Stoke

                            I don't know where the stories came from that Gerrard would be fit for Newcastle.
                            From your Head of Sports Medicine Dr Peter Brukner, Roy.

                            It's not as if he'll be playing with a bunch of also-rans. I'm not asking him to play in the reserves.
                            Asking Torres to play against Utrecht while also motivating his reserves

                            I thought it would be a nice game for him (Torres) and a chance for him to get his confidence back. But I also had a talk to our fitness people and they made me see sense that it wasn't the wisest thing to do.
                            Revealing who picks the team.

                            I think we will cross that bridge when we come to it... I am not naive to believe there won’t be any danger and we will never lose a player like Torres, I understand these things can happen
                            Issuing a stern hands-off Torres warning to pal Ferguson. Well, kind of.

                            When it was mooted the club wanted me for the job I made it clear to Kenny I wanted him on board and it wouldn’t be like it was with Benitez where he’d be here in name only. It wouldn’t be the case that Kenny would be never be allowed to step foot into Melwood.
                            Having another dig at the Spaniard, a claim which was exposed as a lie by the Champions League winning manager

                            He's not so much a player I can really take responsibility for. I'd have to share the responsibility for Joe, less so than for people like [Christian] Poulsen, [Raul] Meireles and [Paul] Konchesky, who are players I was quite happy to bring to the club.
                            Washing his hands of Joe Cole a week before the former Chelsea midfielder earns Liverpool a 2-1 victory over Bolton

                            Ever since I came here, the famous Anfield support hasn't really been there.There was the problem with the owners and Kenny being so popular and the job going to me, so I have had to live with that. I have to hope the fans will become supporters because we need support. We are not deliberately losing games.
                            Roy puts the final nail in his coffin

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                              Is he gone yet?
                              Modifying post.

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                                Originally posted by Arn View Post
                                Rafa's man management is so bad that he made players like Reina, Agger, Torres, Gerrard, Carragher, Mascherano, Alonso into excellent players.

                                He made Crouch a very good player. He made Bellamy play better than he ever done at another club. He got the best out of a lot of other players. I could go on by I guess you get the point.

                                Rafa's bad man management is a myth created by the like of Sky.

                                I don't think I need to comment about the transfer spending. Another myth created by the likes of Sky.

                                Bizzare subs?? We won a lot of games thanks to goals the last half an hour so I would say that his subs worked. Another Sky myth.

                                Awful tactics?? We totally dominated more or less every home game for six years. Is that awful tactics? We lacked creativity the last third thanks to that we didn't had the money to sign the players that would make a difference the last third. They cost a lot of money you know h:

                                Go back and watch Sky again, they are your heroes, you don't want to miss your heroes, do you?

                                Rafa's management....Riera, Babel, Crouch, Bellamy, Keane might argue with you about that. I didn't see Carra or Gerrard coming to his defense ever after he was sacked. The only myth here is the one you're trying to spin.

                                He did nothing to Crouch or Bellamy, in fact Bellamy was pretty average to say the least. Both wanted to leave due to his exceptional man management skills. He is unable to keep anyone on the bench happy.

                                His tactics cost us in his last season, far too defensive, threw all his eggs into one basket and it backfired hugely. Rafa was far too scared to concede a goal and often that got in the way of going for the win. Quite often we'd sit back on a one goal lead and pay the price.

                                The transfer spending is another issue altogether and I've never said he spent a fortune. Something I've pointed out here a few times, at our peak I think our starting 11 and bench cost around the 140m mark, compared to over 200 for Utd and Chelsea, 170 for Spurs.

                                Take the blinkers off and stop believing that anyone who doesn't think the sun shines out of Rafa's ass, watches Sky and is brainwashed. Go on Montse, put the kettle on for your hubby and make him a nice cuppa tea. You can beat an egg, but you can't beat a nice cuppa tea.

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