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    Originally posted by Shanks View Post
    So we pick up the press bits and bobs, when it suits??

    Actually what he said was

    "Joe is a very confident player"

    "He isn't a naturally confident character"
    Haha what on earth are you on about?

    Hodgson said Cole's performances were suffering because he wasnt a confident character. Now he's suddenly a confident player who always believes he's playing well so doesnt suffer problems. It cant be both ways.

    Its not picking bits and bobs, its reading his actual quotes. Its actually you who has done that.

    I shouldnt be surprised at your sticking up for him though, you somehow thought he'd be good.
    Last edited by Chris; 05-01-11, 01:25 AM.

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      It is rather funny that he complains about quote mining by actually quote mining isn't it.
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        Originally posted by Chris View Post
        I shouldnt be surprised at your sticking up for him though, you somehow thought he'd be good.
        I'm far from sticking up for him....

        I dont understand why you choose to believe certain press releases based on where they are from..

        You can be a confident player, without being a confident character...

        Some players express themselves more on the pitch
        and I think it's all too easy to pick up on Roy's sound bytes at the mo...

        I'm not a fan by any stretch but some consistency could be good in the comments..

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          Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
          As with all rumours you can choose to believe it or not, don't shoot the messenger etc. All I will say is that I wouldn't post it if I thought it was rubbish.

          If I hear anymore I'll let you all know.
          Aye. There was once a fat cunt who vouched for his insiders too.
          Hello mert.

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            "He isn't a naturally confident character. He suffers when things are not going his way,"
            "Joe is a very confident player. He always thinks he is playing well. So he doesn’t have any great worries about that side of things,”
            In one he says Joe struggles when things are not going his way. In the next he says Joe always thinks he's playing well so has no worries about that side of things. If confidence is not an issue for Joe on the pitch, why mention he lacks confidence in other areas of his life, when they have **** all to do with anything?

            He either lacks confidence when playing or he doesn't. Anything else doesn't matter. For those reasons I find it very strange why Roy would make such comments. But since Roy has contradicted himself countless times this season and made many bizarre comments I shouldn't really be suprised.

            It's no wonder people poke fun and suggest he has some sort of illness that affects his long term memory. He is either coming out with rubbish or he is quick to change his mind on things.
            Forwards.......

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              Originally posted by Fivex View Post
              Aye. There was once a fat cunt who vouched for his insiders too.
              Dunk did have some insiders at one point, it's how he managed to spread the word. But when people clicked on to his robbing ways, people left and that included the insiders.
              Forwards.......

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                Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                In one he says Joe struggles when things are not going his way. In the next he says Joe always thinks he's playing well so has no worries about that side of things. If confidence is not an issue for Joe on the pitch, why mention he lacks confidence in other areas of his life, when they have **** all to do with anything?

                He either lacks confidence when playing or he doesn't. Anything else doesn't matter. For those reasons I find it very strange why Roy would make such comments. But since Roy has contradicted himself countless times this season and made many bizarre comments I shouldn't really be suprised.

                It's no wonder people poke fun and suggest he has some sort of illness that affects his long term memory. He is either coming out with rubbish or he is quick to change his mind on things.
                Harsh... imo..
                and people will pick up on everything, out of every interview now..

                I'm not a fan of his managerial style and he isn't right for LFC but why mock the fella at every opportunity..?

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                  Originally posted by red g View Post
                  Under-pressure Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson admits he is "on a greasy pole" at Anfield - but is doing his best to "justify" his appointment.

                  Despite a much-needed injury-time victory over Bolton on Saturday, speculation still persists that the 63-year-old's days are numbered at Anfield.

                  After taking over in October - three months after Hodgson's appointment by the previous regime - owners New England Sports Ventures are believed to be exploring options for a change of manager.

                  Ralf Rangnick, who resigned as coach of Hoffenheim at the weekend after a difference of opinion with the club's owner, is the latest to be added to a list of potential successors.

                  After Saturday's win Hodgson bemoaned the "negativity" of the conjecture about his position at the club but stressed he was able to rise above it.

                  "When you get given the job you climb up to the top of a greasy pole - we all do that - but at least you are on the pole and you have been given the chance," said the Reds boss, who has had to endure the Kop calling for him to be replaced by Liverpool legend Kenny Dalglish and faced sarcastic chants of "Hodgson for England".

                  "I am on an exceptionally lofty pole because the club is one of the biggest in the world and that is why when you get the job here you are so pleased you are chosen.

                  "I will be doing my best during the time I am working here to justify my selection and trying to get the team playing the sort of football we played against Bolton.

                  "But it was not just against Bolton, I can give you six or seven games where we have played as well as that.

                  "I can also, with no attempt at modesty, point out we have played 10 difficult games in Europe without even using the bulk of our first-team players and we have reached the last 32 of the Europa League.

                  "I still see a lot of things positively and my glass is absolutely half full rather than half empty at the moment."

                  The performance against Bolton involved a patchy first 45 minutes and a much-improved second half, when the impressive Steven Gerrard provided the ammunition for Fernando Torres and Joe Cole to turn a 1-0 deficit into a very late 2-1 win.

                  It lifted the Reds back up to ninth but they are still closer to the relegation zone (six points) than they are to fifth-placed Chelsea (10 points).

                  Hodgson has laid down several markers since his appointment in July, the first of which was for him to be judged after 10 games and then to ensure the team was in the top half of the table by the halfway stage of the campaign.

                  After 10 matches the team had just 12 points following a woeful start and although they rallied briefly back-to-back defeats to Newcastle and at home to Wolves heaped the pressure back on Hodgson.

                  Even the win over Bolton failed to quell speculation about his situation but the former Fulham boss is targeting an improvement in 2011 after admitting their current league position was exactly where he expected them to be.

                  "Once you go outside of the top five clubs we are all guilty of the same thing - a good performance followed by a poor one," said Hodgson, who takes his side to Blackburn as Liverpool's fixture-packed January continues.

                  "It is important if we want to finish even top of that pile (the teams outside the top five) we knock that inconsistency out of our game.

                  "A lot of the negativity has been somewhat unfounded and I said very early in the season, probably after seven games when we were in the bottom three, that if we can get to 19 games and find ourselves in the top half of the table that would be the best we could hope for.

                  "That is what we have achieved so far and I am hoping in the second half of the season we will kick on, especially if there is the possibility to add a player or two in the transfer window."




                  where do you start? ffs Roy does any manager in the world talk as much **** as him?


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                  Hodgson, greasy pole? You know this guy is going to chase NESV with a Stilton on the end of a fork, screaming smell my cheese.
                  Last edited by Kronenburg1892; 05-01-11, 02:05 AM.

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                    Originally posted by Shanks View Post
                    Harsh... imo..
                    and people will pick up on everything, out of every interview now..

                    I'm not a fan of his managerial style and he isn't right for LFC but why mock the fella at every opportunity..?
                    Yes, people will pick up on everything and for the same reason they mock him whenever they can - because they don't like him and don't want him at the club. It's kind of bullying actually. The only difference being that this form of bullying comes with being involved in football and also comes with rich financial reward.

                    Because for all the laughs people get from Hodgson, he'll be one laughing all the way to the bank when he spends all our hard earned money on a retirement home in the cotswolds.

                    I tell you what, I'd happily have a load of complete strangers mock me on the internet if it meant I was gonna get a £3m pay off or whatever it is he'll get.
                    Forwards.......

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                      Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                      Yes, people will pick up on everything and for the same reason they mock him whenever they can - because they don't like him and don't want him at the club. It's kind of bullying actually. The only difference being that this form of bullying comes with being involved in football and also comes with rich financial reward.

                      Because for all the laughs people get from Hodgson, he'll be one laughing all the way to the bank when he spends all our hard earned money on a retirement home in the cotswolds.

                      I tell you what, I'd happily have a load of complete strangers mock me on the internet if it meant I was gonna get a £3m pay off or whatever it is he'll get.
                      And there is the truth of it.

                      Football is becoming support in 140 characters or less. But I guess their agents are on top of it.

                      But like car insurance, it has to be paid for.

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                        Originally posted by Kronenburg1892 View Post
                        And there is the truth of it.

                        Football is becoming support in 140 characters or less. But I guess their agents are on top of it.

                        But like car insurance, it has to be paid for.
                        Back in the day the game used to be all about respect. No diving for a free kick, no flashing of imaginary cards, No "ssshhhhh" to fans of the opposition, No slagging the club of to get a pay rise, no mouthing of to the refs........ I could go on all day.

                        But all that was a long time a go, way before my time. All that changed when large sums of money came into the game. When the financial rewards became greater football lost its humility and the fans could no longer identify with the players.

                        I'm not a massive fan of Dirk Kuyt as a player, but it's not often you come across a man who is so down to earth and who seems truly gratefull for what he has. Doesn't have his head in the clouds, gives everything he can on the pitch and actually looks like he understands he is earning a massive amount and as such has to work his bollocks of for it.

                        If I saw more players in a red shirt giving the same effort as Dirk Kuyt I think I'd start to identify with the players more.
                        Forwards.......

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                          Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                          Back in the day the game used to be all about respect. No diving for a free kick, no flashing of imaginary cards, No "ssshhhhh" to fans of the opposition, No slagging the club of to get a pay rise, no mouthing of to the refs........ I could go on all day.

                          But all that was a long time a go, way before my time. All that changed when large sums of money came into the game. When the financial rewards became greater football lost its humility and the fans could no longer identify with the players.

                          I'm not a massive fan of Dirk Kuyt as a player, but it's not often you come across a man who is so down to earth and who seems truly gratefull for what he has. Doesn't have his head in the clouds, gives everything he can on the pitch and actually looks like he understands he is earning a massive amount and as such has to work his bollocks of for it.

                          If I saw more players in a red shirt giving the same effort as Dirk Kuyt I think I'd start to identify with the players more.
                          I get that with Kuyt. But there are those who know less that see that with him too. I don't have a problem with him at all, and I think he's one of the few that have absolutely proved his doubters wrong.

                          When 'we' got rid of G&H, there was a part of me that wondered what we'd released on the internet and what control we now have on our club/s in general. Something that didn't quite sit comfortably.

                          Sure we had a victory. It needed to be said. It was.

                          But I'm not sure where that has left us now. Circumstances beside.

                          I've always cherished that we give a new idea some legs in management. But now I wonder what the half life of that fuse is now.

                          I guess, it's up to us to be more objective, and keep posting our opinion. And not caught in the deadfall of those we read/see/hear who shout loudest.
                          Last edited by Kronenburg1892; 05-01-11, 02:32 AM.

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                            Originally posted by Kronenburg1892 View Post
                            When 'we' got rid of G&H, there was a part of me that wondered what we'd released on the internet and what control we now have on our club/s in general. Something that didn't quite sit comfortably.
                            In all honesty, did we have a victory? Many people will say what happened was going to happen at that point in time regardless of any fan action, quite simply G+H owed money and they didn't have the cash to pay it back. So a sale was always likely then.

                            What I would say is that the fan action put people off who would consider either investing in part of the club with G+H, or from bailing G+H out due to the negative publicity that would come there way.

                            I guess for sure we'll never know.
                            Forwards.......

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                              Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                              In all honesty, did we have a victory? Many people will say what happened was going to happen at that point in time regardless of any fan action, quite simply G+H owed money and they didn't have the cash to pay it back. So a sale was always likely then.

                              What I would say is that the fan action put people off who would consider either investing in part of the club with G+H, or from bailing G+H out due to the negative publicity that would come there way.

                              I guess for sure we'll never know.
                              dave of mutilation

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                                robbohuyton Gareth Roberts
                                Oh dear, now someone at #LFC is telling journos it's all @spiritofshankly's fault. Never Roy is it? http://bit.ly/eXLfkO


                                Anfield hit by a great divide Hodgson: Has few friends in the Kop
                                There will be 7,000 Liverpool fans making the trip to Blackburn Rovers tonight. The club still commands fantastic away support, but increasingly its various factions are walking alone. A further legacy of the era of Rafael Benitez, Tom Hicks and George Gillett is divided loyalty.
                                One club executive, a Liverpool man through and through, told me this week that his greatest fear is of the civil war once played out in the boardroom shifting its location to the Kop, with outspoken groups increasingly divided on the way forward.
                                One theory is that the mocking 'Hodgson for England' chants which could be heard during the defeat against Wolves originated in the part of the ground occupied by the Spirit of Shankly pressure group, and the commotion that followed was in part dissenting voices offering support for the manager. This may be wishful thinking as Hodgson is running out of allies fast.
                                It would be logical, however, that even on a night of great disappointment, Anfield would not be unanimous in its views. Support for Benitez was far from universal, no matter how history is being rewritten.
                                The legacy of that tumultuous time is a fan base that has been encouraged to think the hated previous owners were removed by a grass roots uprising, not the hard-nosed practicality of the Royal Bank of Scotland.
                                This makes for a lot of noise, but not all of it helpful and certainly not of one voice.

                                Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...#ixzz1A9EB1Wtz


                                Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...#ixzz1A9Dm7Wdo

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