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    #961
    Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
    Tbh i think we're still in the same position, in that BR has to succeed, otherwise fans will be saying they sacked Dalglish too soon.
    You're probably right. I just hope it doesn't come to that, but I don't have a good feeling this time around.
    Life is NOT a journey to the grave with the goal of arriving safely in a prettily preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways in a shower of gravel and party shards, thoroughly used, utterly exhausted, and loudly proclaiming: "F*** ME, that was BRILLIANT!"

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      #962
      Originally posted by Airman View Post
      You're probably right. I just hope it doesn't come to that, but I don't have a good feeling this time around.
      Funny that, as I have a better feeling this time around than I did when FSG announced the extension to Dalglish's tenure.
      One tit for another.

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        #963
        Originally posted by little dave hedgehog View Post
        but the windows don't exist in a vacuum. maybe 50m of it came from the torres sale, but that's not pretend money. the point is, if i sell torres for 50m and then i spend 50m in the market, no matter where that money comes from, i want to have 50m worth of players at the end of the day. if you make 50 million in the market and spend it on stweart downing and andy carroll, then you've wasted a lot of money. is that fsg's fault? after everyone begged them to give kenny the job, and it seemed like the right thing to do?

        fair play to them for making a change to try and rectify their mistake, but the previous regime wasted tens of millions of pounds. that's the real problem here.
        This is the only post that should be quoted when all this bollocks about net spend comes up for the umpteenth time.
        Was muß, das muß.

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          #964
          thanks. still nowt good to say about macs, though.
          dave of mutilation

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            #965
            Yes that is a strong argument, but seeing as it did not really work out and the club does not have much cash shouldn't they dip into their own coffers now to ensure we stay competitive at the top end of the table? Its not effing rocket science either is it?
            "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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              #966
              Originally posted by Tee View Post
              Yes that is a strong argument, but seeing as it did not really work out and the club does not have much cash shouldn't they dip into their own coffers now to ensure we stay competitive at the top end of the table? Its not effing rocket science either is it?
              What's to say that for the right player they won't dip into their own pockets? However, we can't just buy buy buy, we have to remove the dross at the same time, otherwise we'd have wage bills coming out of our ears and would probably fall foul of the FFP ****. Hence the need to remove Carroll from the books to allow another striker in. It's not cos we can't afford to buy, it's because we have to keep our operating costs within a certain limit.

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                #967
                Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                What's to say that for the right player they won't dip into their own pockets? However, we can't just buy buy buy, we have to remove the dross at the same time, otherwise we'd have wage bills coming out of our ears and would probably fall foul of the FFP ****. Hence the need to remove Carroll from the books to allow another striker in. It's not cos we can't afford to buy, it's because we have to keep our operating costs within a certain limit.
                Very true. Just take one look at Rangers for evidence. (I know there are differences, but the principle is there)
                Life is NOT a journey to the grave with the goal of arriving safely in a prettily preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways in a shower of gravel and party shards, thoroughly used, utterly exhausted, and loudly proclaiming: "F*** ME, that was BRILLIANT!"

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                  #968
                  Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                  What's to say that for the right player they won't dip into their own pockets? However, we can't just buy buy buy, we have to remove the dross at the same time, otherwise we'd have wage bills coming out of our ears and would probably fall foul of the FFP ****. Hence the need to remove Carroll from the books to allow another striker in. It's not cos we can't afford to buy, it's because we have to keep our operating costs within a certain limit.
                  FFP is a farce, a myth. Nothing will ever happen there. We have got rid of Maxi, Kuyt, Aquilani (nearly) so wages should not be a problem should they?

                  Sick of excuses. Time to stand up and be counted FSG. Put up or sell up.
                  "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                    #969
                    Who would they sell to though?

                    We've learnt before it's not as easy as we'd like to find some mega rich family or whatever who will pump endless money into the club.

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                      #970
                      Originally posted by Reece View Post
                      Who would they sell to though?

                      We've learnt before it's not as easy as we'd like to find some mega rich family or whatever who will pump endless money into the club.
                      There are potentially huge investors around the world. We are still a big attraction and I see absolutely no reason why we cannot have owners to compete with the likes of Chelsea, City and PSG.

                      China is the direction I would be looking as well. Massive potential, we are the near perfect fit for Chinese investment.
                      "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                        #971
                        Possibly, but it's also a bit of a risky fantasy in my opinion.

                        The current owners, whilst they aren't going to bankroll us to the point where we can compete with City and Chelsea etc (in pure money terms anyway), I also don't think that we'd ever get into financial trouble with them.

                        If it was so easy to find a rich group like you say, then why didn't it happen before? That's not to say it wouldn't in the future, but I just think it's easier said than done.

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                          #972
                          Originally posted by Tee View Post
                          FFP is a farce, a myth. Nothing will ever happen there. We have got rid of Maxi, Kuyt, Aquilani (nearly) so wages should not be a problem should they?

                          Sick of excuses. Time to stand up and be counted FSG. Put up or sell up.
                          K ris90210

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                            #973
                            Originally posted by Tee View Post
                            There are potentially huge investors around the world. We are still a big attraction and I see absolutely no reason why we cannot have owners to compete with the likes of Chelsea, City and PSG.

                            China is the direction I would be looking as well. Massive potential, we are the near perfect fit for Chinese investment.


                            So why didn't they come in for us at a time when we were up for sale? You're living in a dream world mate
                            K ris90210

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                              #974
                              Originally posted by kris90210 View Post


                              So why didn't they come in for us at a time when we were up for sale? You're living in a dream world mate
                              Who says they didn't?
                              "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                                #975
                                Originally posted by Reece View Post
                                Possibly, but it's also a bit of a risky fantasy in my opinion.

                                The current owners, whilst they aren't going to bankroll us to the point where we can compete with City and Chelsea etc (in pure money terms anyway), I also don't think that we'd ever get into financial trouble with them.

                                If it was so easy to find a rich group like you say, then why didn't it happen before? That's not to say it wouldn't in the future, but I just think it's easier said than done.
                                The only reason that the City owners went for them - a medium-sized club with zero global presence - is that they already had a new stadium.

                                I'm convinced our lot will do the minimum, like extend Anfield, after which we'll be a much more attractive proposition to potential buyers. Then they'll cash in

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