Spurs - L'pool post match

[Shanks]

I'm on Torres' side in the debate about him, but **** like this doesn't help. This is really bad.

http://www.twitvid.com/OHVVL

wow

Torres h:

Stuck up for him before I saw that.

That's ****ing disgraceful from Torres. He doesnt even remotely care, not even arsed about seeing what happens with the penalty.

Half-arsed spoilt brat.

He does not care. There is no fight in him for our cause. Thats what the Vid say's to me

WTF! So because he didn't watch a Spurs pen, his attitude stinks?
He wasn't happy with the pen and he complained to the ref.... He also had a smile on his face and celebrated when Skrtel scored..

Cmon guys, lets not scrape the barrell here.

[Craig_H]

The best we can hope for is a 6th placed finish, about the same as last year. But at least last year we were in the race for 4th right up until near the end of the season.

I'm used to being out the title race by the end of November, it's a long time Manc joke that is usually right. But being out of the race for 4th by the end of November is a new low!

I dont think we ARE out of it.

I dont think we'll get it, mind. But that's not because we're out of it, it's because NESV are ****s who'd fail to see the water if you chucked them out of a boat.

[Craig_H]

WTF! So because he didn't watch a Spurs pen, his attitude stinks?
He wasn't happy with the pen and he complained to the ref.... He also had a smile on his face and celebrated when Skrtel scored..

Cmon guys, lets not scrape the barrell here.

His attitude stinks because....well, it stinks.

Lazy, moaning, whinging, negative body language, doesnt even care enough to see whether we've conceded a goal or not.

Just extremely child-like and pathetic.

[danperkins]

The fact that we dont play to Johnson's strengths, or use a system that suits him, is in no way HIS fault.

If we were an attacking side, his defensive weaknesses wouldnt be as obvious.

You can't change your system to suit one player, Johnson was average last season under Rafa too.

fact remains Johnson has been poor for LFC that is blatantly obvious, and nothing you spin will change that. For an athletic guy he has looked slow,clumsy and labored and although Roy has the tactical acumen of a retarded swamp rate this is not Roy's fault. Johnson must accept responsibility for his poor performances ad try to improve.

So that in no way HIS fault is just silly nonsense.

[danperkins]

Nobody is blowing anything. Maxi just IS a good player.

In your opinion Craigy pie. IMO he must improve, impose himself more on games and be consistent in his performances.

[Fredo]

His attitude stinks because....well, it stinks.

Lazy, moaning, whinging, negative body language, doesnt even care enough to see whether we've conceded a goal or not.

Just extremely child-like and pathetic.

Not very different from our captain last year.

[red g]

You can't change your system to suit one player, Johnson was average last season under Rafa too.

fact remains Johnson has been poor for LFC that is blatantly obvious, and nothing you spin will change that. For an athletic guy he has looked slow,clumsy and labored and although Roy has the tactical acumen of a retarded swamp rate this is not Roy's fault. Johnson must accept responsibility for his poor performances ad try to improve.

So that in no way HIS fault is just silly nonsense.

if we sit back and defend then Johnson will be exposed more......if we attack and go for it then Johnson will look better.........its not brain science

[DannyMan2006]

I dont think we ARE out of it.

I dont think we'll get it, mind. But that's not because we're out of it, it's because NESV are ****s who'd fail to see the water if you chucked them out of a boat.

Get real. We are out of it.

Don't get me wrong, cahnge manager today and I would reconsider. But that is not going to happen and as such we have no hope of 4th place.

Our away form is so bad it's beyond a joke.

All this celebrating of a narrow defeat to Spurs is so small time. Especially when you have to consider that beating us is the first time Spurs have won a game after playing Champions League football in the mid week. Plus Spurs had two early injuries to cope with.

We played a rival for 4th who were there for the taking and after having them on the back foot we surrendered momentum. We did the same against Wigan and others, but I put it down to us having played in Europe and being tired. Yesterday we were the fresher side so there are no excuses anymore.

We capitulated for the umpteenth time this season and I'm afraid there is nowhere esle to lay the blame anymore. It is the fault of Roy and under him we are dead in the water.

[red g]

I dont think we ARE out of it.

I dont think we'll get it, mind. But that's not because we're out of it, it's because NESV are ****s who'd fail to see the water if you chucked them out of a boat.

we are out of it with the present structure.

In fact present structure i think 10th would be our upper end limit.

I also think you should reign in your slagging off NESV. I refuse to believe they have there head in the sands over this.

[DannyMan2006]

Especially when you have to consider that beating us is the first time Spurs have won a game after playing Champions League football in the mid week. .

Actually that is wrong........ They have been up and down. They beat Wolves and Villa at home after CL games as well.

[Pablo]

I agree that Craig's slagging off of NESV is OTT and a little premature at this stage. We don't know what they are doing (which is as it should be), and I'm glad they haven't made a snap decision without a solid plan in place.

I still have faith that Roy will be gone soon enough, probably when we least expect it.

[DannyMan2006]

we are out of it with the present structure.

In fact present structure i think 10th would be our upper end limit.

I also think you should reign in your slagging off NESV. I refuse to believe they have there head in the sands over this.

They asked us to judge them on their actions and that is what we are doing.

[danperkins]

if we sit back and defend then Johnson will be exposed more......if we attack and go for it then Johnson will look better.........its not brain science

For sure i completely agree. But of of the opinion that your defenders need to be able to defend first and foremost. We have issues defensively and looks nervous right across the back line. Johnson does not do us any favours in our back line IMO.

[Big-Red-Ed]

I feel I must revise my initial post match view having had time to reflect and to see the highlights again on MOTD2.

I had initially felt we played reasonably well and posted as such. I had thought we had played well in the context of what had come before but that is the problem. I for one have been sucked into expecting absolutely dire performances and when we get anything that is remotely an improvement I try and see the positives. But that is the crux of the matter. We have an absolutely ****e manager, relying on ancient footballing principles and some truely awful players. Really if a change of manager and some major reshaping of the squad doesn't happen within weeks we are going to be cast adrift for the medium to long term.

[Craig_H]

You can't change your system to suit one player, Johnson was average last season under Rafa too.

fact remains Johnson has been poor for LFC that is blatantly obvious, and nothing you spin will change that. For an athletic guy he has looked slow,clumsy and labored and although Roy has the tactical acumen of a retarded swamp rate this is not Roy's fault. Johnson must accept responsibility for his poor performances ad try to improve.

So that in no way HIS fault is just silly nonsense.

I'm not saying we change our system to suit one player.

I'm saying we change our system, because i want us to be an ATTACKING side. And Johnson is perfectly suited to an attacking system/side.

The fact that we're a negative, cautious side which doesnt suit him, IS in no way his fault. He doesnt implement the mindset into the players.

In your opinion Craigy pie. IMO he must improve, impose himself more on games and be consistent in his performances.

In mine, and that of anyone who has a solid understanding of football. Clearly not in your opinion, then.

And cut out all the 'craigy pie' bull**** as well, i stopped referring to you as little dan perkins, so afford the same courtesy.