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    Originally posted by Arn View Post
    Our stats without Gerrard the seasons 08-09 and 09-10 is 6 wins 6 draws and 2 losses.

    We only lost two out of 14 games without him. Gerrard is an excellent player but he isn't a must anymore in the starting XI. We can cope without him without any problem.

    We of course only won six out of fourteen but to say that we can't cope without him is wrong. The last season and a half we played better as a team without him. Other players take more responsibility and is allowed to do it.
    So, according to your stats, we're win about 15% more games (over 2 years) with him in the team than without. You're right, Arn. Just sell him now.
    A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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      Originally posted by alunevans View Post
      To be honest, this Liverpool way thing is a load of hogwash. The Liverpool way is not about sentimentality or a rulebook of etiquette. It is about success. That's the Liverpool way. Everything else we ever did was because it served success. Keeping Roy in charge doesn't.
      FINALLY, someone who can eloquently summarise the Liverpool Way.

      I'm deathly bored of people who bitched about Rafa and losing this and 7th that, and popular we aren't and our football is boring blah blah blah. He at least tried to win, ****ed up but never betrayed that mentality. I know how he set the team up sometimes etc but overall we were a club under him that wanted to win stuff, not just defend and hope (we lost 11 league games last season; so far Woy has lost 7. Odds on him beating 11?). That's Woy all over, a defeatist wimpmeister and it ****s me off no end.

      Sack Rafa for not winning? Maybe, but he had a ruthless streak in him that could have turned us around. Woy is without hope, and if NESV have a megastar manager lined up they better ****ing tell Nando, Pepe & Gerrard (don't care about Jamie, he had his chance with Woy) so they can man the **** up and impress us, the fans.

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        Roy isn't the right person for LFC that is clear but one thing to bear in mind we finished 7th last year with a superior squad so surely that being the case we will be worse off this year (given other top teams are stronger)which is how it seems to be panning out.

        I do feel Hodgson took something of a poisoned chalice when he took over and whilst he hasn't helped himself we have to appreicate that the task involved may be a lot bigger than first thought.

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          Wildman, masch was a loss but the others were down to hodgson. £10m on konk and poulsen was crazy. Keep Insua and aqua and £10m on a striker and we'd be far better off. It's his own fault we are so much worse off.
          Forwards.......

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            I've said it all season. Best part of 20m down the drain, with regards to players in and players loan out

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              Originally posted by wildman View Post
              Roy isn't the right person for LFC that is clear but one thing to bear in mind we finished 7th last year with a superior squad so surely that being the case we will be worse off this year (given other top teams are stronger)which is how it seems to be panning out.

              I do feel Hodgson took something of a poisoned chalice when he took over and whilst he hasn't helped himself we have to appreicate that the task involved may be a lot bigger than first thought.

              Actually the league is much weaker this year than last and we have had less injury problems.

              He has done a **** job with a decent squad because he doesn't know how to use it in a fashion that is not stuck in 1975.
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                Good points matt. Things like this sky and pro Roy media like to ignore.
                Forwards.......

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                  Anyone fancy it?

                  LFCTV Liverpool FC LFC
                  We've opened the phonelines early for the Q&A with John Henry, Thomas Werner & Ian Ayre: http://lfc.tv/sr6 Call 0845 234 4567 (MO)
                  Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                    Anyone fancy it?
                    I think you or Craig would be ideal.

                    They probably don't want to many questions about old turkey neck, so tell the producers you want to ask about: stadium/melwood-academy/CEO/new signings/henrry's sexy wife/etc Then BANG when you're on air give them some grief about old owl face.
                    We come not to play.

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                      Once the live show gets underway we'll ring back supporters who we judge to have submitted the best and most original questions for our guests


                      Hmm, not many q's about Roy methinks. Everyone should change the question back to Roy when called back
                      Forwards.......

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                        Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                        Wildman, masch was a loss but the others were down to hodgson. £10m on konk and poulsen was crazy. Keep Insua and aqua and £10m on a striker and we'd be far better off. It's his own fault we are so much worse off.
                        Absolutely. He's not a scapegoat here. He created this mess himself and he should be rightfully sacked.
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                          Call back service, so no Roy questions then.

                          "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                            Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                            Once the live show gets underway we'll ring back supporters who we judge to have submitted the best and most original questions for our guests


                            Hmm, not many q's about Roy methinks. Everyone should change the question back to Roy when called back
                            The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                              Originally posted by Imy View Post
                              I think you or Craig would be ideal.

                              They probably don't want to many questions about old turkey neck, so tell the producers you want to ask about: stadium/melwood-academy/CEO/new signings/henrry's sexy wife/etc Then BANG when you're on air give them some grief about old owl face.
                              Unfortunately i was stuck in work until 5:30pm and didnt get home until 5:50pm - i was recording it and wanted to watch it from the start, so wasnt in a position to call in.

                              Martin from Stoneycroft did just as well a job as Shaggy or I would've done though. However, i think/hope that i would've brought up Rafa's haul of 13 away wins in 2008-2009, which Martin didnt.

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                                Originally posted by Craig_H View Post

                                Martin from Stoneycroft did just as well a job as Shaggy or I would've done though. However, i think/hope that i would've brought up Rafa's haul of 13 away wins in 2008-2009, which Martin didnt.

                                It's always the modesty that shines through your posts Oh Great One.

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