Would you bring in a manager on a temporary basis until the summer?

[Eric Swindler]

Don't really see any advantage in getting rid now. Wait until the summer where the market for players and managers will be much better. And i don't really want Kenny back as an interim because it won't really gain anything and I want to remember him at the very top. Not mid table battles.

That's the sensible option in my opinion.

I agree with this entirely. Roy isn't the fundamental issue when it comes to our problems, even though most of the internet has convinced itself that he is. The squad has suffered dramatically from a lack of investment by H & G and some poor transfer decisions by the previous manager and our thin squad in terms of quality still remains the biggest issue at the club.

We have one proper striker in Torres and he's playing like he's already mentally at Barcelona. Gerrard is still a class act but getting old. There's no real pace in the side apart from Babel who is a useless sack of ****e. We have no wingers and only one ball playing defender who is injured for large parts of every season. Roy didn't create these problems, the previous regime did. Now this isn't an endorsement of Roy, im not really arsed if he stays or goes this season, his footy is absolute ****e, but the concept that he is the root of all our evils is wide of the mark IMO. Much of the time, I notice very little difference between the performances of this season and last season.

If Rafa couldn't do it, and now Roy can't do it, then you have to look at the squad and the deficiencies there. Rafa was fundamentally handicapped by the owners. That handicap has quite clearly carried over into this season.

So until investment can be made, in January but more so in the summer, I see no real reason to change managers until then. More of the right candidates will be available at that time and hopefully we can nab the attack minded manager that we're all desperate for, whoever that may be.

[Muddled]

I think we can pretty much write this season off.

Every new manager comes in with talk of needing to assess the players, look at them closely and then start implementing their own ideas. They then want a couple of transfer windows to get rid of the dross and identify and purchase their targets ... hence the famous five-year plans and such.

Why not use the second half of this season to allow a new manager to do that?

Get rid of Roy now, let the new manager have the remaining games and training sessions to look at the squad, whilst coaching and implementing his ideas and vision. He will have the summer to get players in and out and a full pre-season under his belt.

Thus, we start next season on a stronger footing. If we get the right manager and said manager is available now. Obv.

[Muddled]

Just re-read the title and seen the important *temporary* bit of the question.

No.

No, is my answer.

Now.

[Eric Swindler]

I think we can pretty much write this season off.

Every new manager comes in with talk of needing to assess the players, look at them closely and then start implementing their own ideas. They then want a couple of transfer windows to get rid of the dross and identify and purchase their targets ... hence the famous five-year plans and such.

Why not use the second half of this season to allow a new manager to do that?

Get rid of Roy now, let the new manager have the remaining games and training sessions to look at the squad, whilst coaching and implementing his ideas and vision. He will have the summer to get players in and out and a full pre-season under his belt.

Thus, we start next season on a stronger footing. If we get the right manager and said manager is available now. Obv.

The right manager probably isn't available now. There's probably more than one manager in the mix and in the summer they'll all be fair game. Now the market would be very limited.

[Muddled]

The right manager probably isn't available now. There's probably more than one manager in the mix and in the summer they'll all be fair game. Now the market would be very limited.

This is true. I'd also mis-read the original question.

I'm holding on to some thinly veined thread of hope, that a new (good) manager decides to up sticks and take on the challenge, then provide enough of a spark to boost us up the league. My only worry about keeping Roy, is that we will finish 10th, Reina, Torres, Johnson et al leave, Carragher and Gerrard are another year older, Man City continue to blitz the transfer market, upping player prices in the process and we get left behind. Liverpool are no longer an *attractive option* to any upcoming starlets and we rely very much on our history and heritage to entice stars which gets further and further into the past with each passing moment.

[Eric Swindler]

It will take 3 years for us to get back to the top. There is no quick fix for us given the damage caused by the last regime.

[Muddled]

It will take 3 years for us to get back to the top. There is no quick fix for us given the damage caused by the last regime.

I admire your optimism, but mine has been shot to **** this season.

[Vermilion]

I'd rather give someone like Owen Coyle the chance than keep Hodgson here a second longer.

Especially if he'd take a one year rolling contract for the chance to manage LFC and see if he could make it work.

[Eric Swindler]

I'd rather give someone like Owen Coyle the chance than keep Hodgson here a second longer.

Especially if he'd take a one year rolling contract for the chance to manage LFC and see if he could make it work.

why would he take a big step down

[Drago]

Id nearly put Sammy ****ing Lee in charge.

[DannyMan2006]

Id nearly put Sammy ****ing Lee in charge.

I'd put any ****er in charge for 6 months. Anyone but ****ing Roy.

[CJ]

why would you want someone with a worse record than roy? thats a bit silly

[DannyMan2006]

why would you want someone with a worse record than roy? thats a bit silly

Marsh.

In the summer, all this club needed was for someone to come in and play positive football. Be positive off the pitch in what you say, be positive on the pitch with what you do. Roy has done the opposite on both counts.

It is now clear he will not get 4th, or even come close. And that is down to him, not the squad being terrible.

So **** it. You know what I say, give someone else the job until the summer and see if they can somehow get us 4th. We all know that Roy will not get us there, so what harm is there in giving another manager a go?

Now clearly, there are quite a few managers out there who would happily take the job on and who would have a very good chance of doing better than Roy. But let's say they didn't. Let's say we ended up 13th instead of say, 8th under Roy.

Is that a big loss? No, not really. Would it have been worth the gamble? Hell yeah. At least we could have played some attacking football along the way.

[Craig_H]

Marsh.

In the summer, all this club needed was for someone to come in and play positive football. Be positive off the pitch in what you say, be positive on the pitch with what you do. Roy has done the opposite on both counts.

It is now clear he will not get 4th, or even come close. And that is down to him, not the squad being terrible.

So **** it. You know what I say, give someone else the job until the summer and see if they can somehow get us 4th. We all know that Roy will not get us there, so what harm is there in giving another manager a go?

Now clearly, there are quite a few managers out there who would happily take the job on and who would have a very good chance of doing better than Roy. But let's say they didn't. Let's say we ended up 13th instead of say, 8th under Roy.

Is that a big loss? No, not really. Would it have been worth the gamble? Hell yeah. At least we could have played some attacking football along the way.

Marsh will have you believe that if they try someone else, it may be possible for that person to do SO badly, that we'd be in danger of being relegated.

[CJ]

Marsh.

In the summer, all this club needed was for someone to come in and play positive football. Be positive off the pitch in what you say, be positive on the pitch with what you do. Roy has done the opposite on both counts.

It is now clear he will not get 4th, or even come close. And that is down to him, not the squad being terrible.

So **** it. You know what I say, give someone else the job until the summer and see if they can somehow get us 4th. We all know that Roy will not get us there, so what harm is there in giving another manager a go?

Now clearly, there are quite a few managers out there who would happily take the job on and who would have a very good chance of doing better than Roy. But let's say they didn't. Let's say we ended up 13th instead of say, 8th under Roy.

Is that a big loss? No, not really. Would it have been worth the gamble? Hell yeah. At least we could have played some attacking football along the way.

I might not agree with anyone but Roy as that includes a huge amount of people who are worse.

Bringing in Sami who has a worse record than Roy just doesnt make any sense. we have to pay Roy off and then have someone worse. I dont see why that is more sensible that at worst having to wait till the end of the season to replace roy with someone good.