Originally posted by MrMichael
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You don't know that. Tbh it seems to me like Rafa put quite a few backs up around Anfield, rightly or wrongly.
Transfers made while H&G were still in charge it should be noted. Aquilani was, basically, an expensive failure, and Insua was constantly getting slagged off by everyone on here all last season. The writer said there is a perception, and he's not entirely wrong about that.
Oh come on Arn, how long an article do you want the guy to write? Fact is Rafa does play politcal games at his clubs, that doesn't have to be a criticism, a lot of managers do, but Rafa is pretty big on it.
You see, this is a prime example of massive over-sensitivity to a pretty innocent point. The guy's not having a go with that, he's stating a fact, Rafa had a fractured relationship with those guys. Whether it was justified or not to is another question, but he DID have a fractured relationship which he took into the public domain in a way that was not always entirely comfortable.
Dude, seriously. Didn't we stumble badly last year?
Look, the guy who wrote that sees Benitez, as I personally also do, as a man of contradictions. He admits and accepts his positives but also is willing to discuss his negaitives as he sees them. The fact that you can go through that article arguing with almost every point does not mean its not balanced, it means you can't accept any criticism of the man, which is frankly, as bit silly in my view. Its perfectly reasonable to both blame Rafa and admit he did a good job. And it is not reasonable to expect him to flesh out every short point made with endless amounts of background qualification.
Oh, and as for this....
7 years of almost impossibility? Good god man. Imagine he was managing Newcastle, or West Ham, or Everton, or Leeds or Northampton Town or most other flipping clubs in existence for that period? Yeah, sure, for a couple of years under H&G he was in a ****ty position, and its not been perfect at other times, but "impossible"? That's way WAY too strong, very few managers in the world, infact almost none, get to work in conditions that are completely how they desire, for most of his Liverpool career he had a good amount of control and a reaosnable budget, he did well sometimes and not so well others, and that is, in my view atleast, perfectly fair, as is discussing Rafa's flaws without making excuses for him ALL the time.
Transfers made while H&G were still in charge it should be noted. Aquilani was, basically, an expensive failure, and Insua was constantly getting slagged off by everyone on here all last season. The writer said there is a perception, and he's not entirely wrong about that.
Oh come on Arn, how long an article do you want the guy to write? Fact is Rafa does play politcal games at his clubs, that doesn't have to be a criticism, a lot of managers do, but Rafa is pretty big on it.
You see, this is a prime example of massive over-sensitivity to a pretty innocent point. The guy's not having a go with that, he's stating a fact, Rafa had a fractured relationship with those guys. Whether it was justified or not to is another question, but he DID have a fractured relationship which he took into the public domain in a way that was not always entirely comfortable.
Dude, seriously. Didn't we stumble badly last year?
Look, the guy who wrote that sees Benitez, as I personally also do, as a man of contradictions. He admits and accepts his positives but also is willing to discuss his negaitives as he sees them. The fact that you can go through that article arguing with almost every point does not mean its not balanced, it means you can't accept any criticism of the man, which is frankly, as bit silly in my view. Its perfectly reasonable to both blame Rafa and admit he did a good job. And it is not reasonable to expect him to flesh out every short point made with endless amounts of background qualification.
Oh, and as for this....
7 years of almost impossibility? Good god man. Imagine he was managing Newcastle, or West Ham, or Everton, or Leeds or Northampton Town or most other flipping clubs in existence for that period? Yeah, sure, for a couple of years under H&G he was in a ****ty position, and its not been perfect at other times, but "impossible"? That's way WAY too strong, very few managers in the world, infact almost none, get to work in conditions that are completely how they desire, for most of his Liverpool career he had a good amount of control and a reaosnable budget, he did well sometimes and not so well others, and that is, in my view atleast, perfectly fair, as is discussing Rafa's flaws without making excuses for him ALL the time.
I'm also getting tired of the rose-tinted view of Rafa's reign here, he did a good job in especially two seasons, but he also made a lot of mistakes down the road. He is a walking contradiction, and one whoms reputation is only held so high amongst a group of fans because he new how to play the game between his employeers and the fans, and take some battles that is in the end not a manager's to take.
I honestly don't understand the insatiable need to defend Rafa in all his doing and wrong doings? What is that makes a couple of fans get to the point where it almost becomes personal that there are views not in favour of Rafa? About half the fans across forums wanted Rafa gone last season (although it's a poor standard of measurement and far from representitive of fans), and as such that shows the contradiction about the man. But I would love if someone could explain it to me, that insatiable need, I mean it's not a bromance (although it almost seems that way some times), and I can't help but feel it's only because they have drawn themselves so far in to a corner they don't know how to get out of it again. Or perhaps they have named a pet or something else after Rafa and now have to defend it to their partner or something.
I think it's a good article Mr.M. posted and one that many fans can be relate to.
(and to the bit in bold, couldn't agree more, we have tomkins for making endlessly backed up little points, that essentially could be written in a sentence, and thank **** not all write like that.)
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