United post match

[Leyton388]

I'm having a barney with a manc who claims to be a level 4 ref, he is insistent that it was a pen, everyone else is wrong but him and Howard Webb are right.

Tell him to **** off and to get back to shagging his sister.

[DannyMan2006]

Meireles, I've defended him already, it did look like Rafael was going in to snap his ankle.

Also its his first season in this league, big difference between here and Portugal lets give him the benefit of the doubt here.

Meireles is also one of our best ball players, although today he was off the pace again I wouldn't come down on any player at the moment its a fresh start for everyone and they will alll need a little time to readjust.

The last thing we want now is scape goats, Kenny will make the right decisions.

Meireles bottled it more than once, which you can't do in Derby games. Needs to man up more. But yes, he does need time. I think overall he's been positive this season. Liverpool could probably do with buying another CM to replace Poulsen and letting Lucas, Meireles and the new guy fight it out for the starting spots with players like Spearing and Shelvey in reserve.

[DannyMan2006]

I thought he was pretty poor again today, short on confidence and poor first touch, even when we had 11 he didnt offer a great deal IMO

He wasn't great, but the changes aren't going to come over night. What was positive was that he busted a gut and came of the pitch knackered. If he had been wandering around like he couldn't be bothered, then I would be concerned.

[danperkins]

Luckily she doesn't and besides she's back in Paris at the moment and she's in a mood right now because I told her to ring me later as I was watching the King's first game back in charge

[sssiho]

Good performance but there was never any doubt of the result when Howard Webb is ref.

[Arn]

The heart and passion is back

We are playing attacking football again

Another point is that if someone offered us £15m or so for Johnson then we should sell him. Kelly is good enough to play right back week in week out. Use the £15m and sign a top quality attacking player.

The Academy is starting to produce players for the STARTING XI First Insua and now Kelly.

[Assassin]

Meireles bottled it more than once, which you can't do in Derby games. Needs to man up more. But yes, he does need time. I think overall he's been positive this season. Liverpool could probably do with buying another CM to replace Poulsen and letting Lucas, Meireles and the new guy fight it out for the starting spots with players like Spearing and Shelvey in reserve.

You need to wise up more. Merieles went off injured recently with a severly bruised injured ankle. He was probably playing with some pain. It is obvious that he is going to pull out of hard tackles, especially two footed tackles

[Daniel 7]

I thought it was pretty positive on the whole. Liverpool looked like a team with purpose again. We pressed and passed from the back, and it was great to see Agger carry the ball out of defence. Couple of shaky passes from Skrtel though, clear to see why he was ahead of Agger in Roy's eyes.

Torres is going to take some effort, he is a shadow of what he was.

Gerrard needs to be further forward, sending off and getting caught out going backwards just before the sending off proves that. See also the above about Torres.

Maxi looked ok further forward, nice touches and flicks.

Kelly - brilliant. What a boy, he never looks ruffled. Sign of a good player. Give him RB and try Johnson further forward.

Lucas - winning us all over. Carried Meireles who was gash.

Howard Webb - **** off you ****ing arse-licking ****er. You're a corrupt Scumn supporting **** and should be struck off and sent to ref the blue ****ing Square.

[Craig_H]

The heart and passion is back

We are playing attacking football again

Another point is that if someone offered us £15m or so for Johnson then we should sell him. Kelly is good enough to play right back week in week out. Use the £15m and sign a top quality attacking player.

The Academy is starting to produce players for the STARTING XI First Insua and now Kelly.

Insua wasnt good enough for the starting XI, not yet at least.

And he didnt come through the academy anyway.

[sean_lfc]

Meireles, I've defended him already, it did look like Rafael was going in to snap his ankle.

Also its his first season in this league, big difference between here and Portugal lets give him the benefit of the doubt here.

Meireles is also one of our best ball players, although today he was off the pace again I wouldn't come down on any player at the moment its a fresh start for everyone and they will alll need a little time to readjust.

The last thing we want now is scape goats, Kenny will make the right decisions.

Brilliant post, agree with every word and most of all the last sentence, not every game demands one

[el matador]

You need to wise up more. Merieles went off injured recently with a severly bruised injured ankle. He was probably playing with some pain. It is obvious that he is going to pull out of hard tackles, especially two footed tackles

he's bottled it on other matches too by pulling out of making big tackles.

He's 27 years old, an experienced international. If he doesnt have the stomach for a fight now he's not going to learn it in the next year or so.

I cant see him being here next season because he's not good enough to play the playmaking role in midfield.

[DannyMan2006]

You need to wise up more. Merieles went off injured recently with a severly bruised injured ankle. He was probably playing with some pain. It is obvious that he is going to pull out of hard tackles, especially two footed tackles

He didn't have a bruised ankle against Everton when he pulled out of challenges. And not all the ones he pulled out of today were two footed. Pain or not he should roll his sleeves up and get on with it. If he was at risk of further injury he wouldn't be on the pitch, especially with the new medical team.

[Craig_H]

He isnt a playmaker.

[Daniel 7]

he's bottled it on other matches too by pulling out of making big tackles.

He's 27 years old, an experienced international. If he doesnt have the stomach for a fight now he's not going to learn it in the next year or so.

I cant see him being here next season because he's not good enough to play the playmaking role in midfield.

I think he deserves a chance in a system that's more suited to his talents. He's played RM under Woy, ffs.

Alonso wasn't a big tackler either, he was accused of "bottling" it on occasion as well.

I reckon Meireles will be fine given a chance.

[ric.williams]

Meireles, I've defended him already, it did look like Rafael was going in to snap his ankle.

Also its his first season in this league, big difference between here and Portugal lets give him the benefit of the doubt here.

give the guy a chance. lucas used to be a **** house now look at him