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Kenny has proven himself as a manager though FFS, he's won everything possible. What's Hodgson won, the ****ing Ikea Cup?Originally posted by Rudo View PostBoth need to be judged the same as Managers though, not the past.
If Kenny picks a **** team like he did tonight, then he should be criticised just as Hodgson was.
Don't tell me to read up on my history of the club chap, i know all about it already. More importantly it has nothing to do with the point i'm making.
You're being incredibly insulting here and it doesnt surprise me that you either dont realise it, or just dont care.
As for tonight, you can say he made poor selections, but if you're making a jdugement on him 5 days into his tenure, that's massively rash, surely even you can see this.
Whatever happens though, there's no comparison between Kenny and Hodgson, none at all. Hodgson doesnt even deserve to breath the same ****ing oxygen.
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Ah thats differentOriginally posted by Rafa_el_Gafa View PostThere was lots of desire to fill the box when we crossed? To chase lost causes?
There was lots of pressing in the last 5 mins when Blackpool played keep ball?
But the general desire and pressing was much improvedBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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Manager in 2011 Craig, not 1985.Originally posted by Craig_H View PostKenny has proven himself as a manager though FFS, he's won everything possible. What's Hodgson won, the ****ing Ikea Cup?
You're being incredibly insulting here and it doesnt surprise me that you either dont realise it, or just dont care.
As for tonight, you can say he made poor selections, but if you're making a jdugement on him 5 days into his tenure, that's massively rash, surely even you can see this.
Whatever happens though, there's no comparison between Kenny and Hodgson, none at all. Hodgson doesnt even deserve to breath the same ****ing oxygen.
I think you're taking my points out of context and trying to make me look bad.
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Unless football is now played with a square ball, it's the same sport and Kenny's record stands up next to anyone's.Originally posted by Rudo View PostManager in 2011 Craig, not 1985.
I think you're taking my points out of context and trying to make me look bad.
Despite what Sky tell you, football was invented before 1992, and achievements from 20+ years ago are still valid.
And he's been a manager in 2011 for FIVE ****ING DAYS - and you're already making a judgement
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I do see what your getting at mate and your right, Kenny will be judged by results like every other manager.Originally posted by Rudo View PostBoth need to be judged the same as Managers though, not the past.
If Kenny picks a **** team like he did tonight, then he should be criticised just as Hodgson was.
Don't tell me to read up on my history of the club chap, i know all about it already. More importantly it has nothing to do with the point i'm making.
He has until the end of the season to improve us, Kenny is The King, ultimate LFC legend, but now he is well in the firing line and is subject for critiscism just like every other manager even if we have a soft spot for him. Early days and a bad situation and circumstance for him to come in but yes he made selection mistakes tonight, lets hope he rectifies this from now on in.
I don't think i've ever wanted anyone to succeed more than him. Could be so good for the club.
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No it wouldntOriginally posted by Craig_H View Post
Would it really surprise you if any sense of bottle or fight had simply been evaoporated away by you know who?
Give them some time FFS.
Listen it was much improved tonight
I'll make points as to what I think went wrong and barring the team selection I'm not going to be pointing the finger too much at KennyBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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No it wasn't as bad as some of our performances recently but they were worse than a shambles (ie Blackburn). This was still a shambles. I will concede however that it was good to see a bit more passion, no sure about fight as that disappeared after that world class striker DJ Campbell scored the winner.Originally posted by Lecter View PostSome of the reaction on here is WAY over the top
This was nowhere near as bad as some of our performances recently
We lack quality thats clear but at least we are showing more passion and fight than we have been
We have also moved up the pitch and have pressed higher
We most certainly lack quality to the point that over 180 mins we have been outplayed by a team that has just come up from the Championship, shown how to play the basics of football by a team that has just come up from the Championship and shown how to be a team by a team that has just come up from the Championship and it isn't just down to Roy, it was happening when Rafa was in charge so that's not playing for Rafa after the coming 2nd season, not playing for Roy and so far (and I do admit it is too early but I just don't think these players have got it anymore) not playing for Kenny.
I'm sorry Lec but for me the majority of these players are mid table team players, players we need to get rid of if only to get some new blood in but players that we will probably struggle to sell and if we do manage to sell them we will get what is considered to be a pittance for them.
Just my opinion of course.
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Originally posted by The Birdman View PostWell I thought it was better, we tried to play, we tried to pass but the missing confidence isn't going to return over night.
I'd have played Kelly at LB and Johnson RB but it was clearly a side picked with tiredness after Man U and Everton coming up in mind.
Biggest problem for us attacking wise was Kuyt and Meireles NOT playing the extra pass wide to Kelly, they could have rolled him in for shots and crosses but chose to come back inside and shoot or try a more difficult pass.
We over complicated it a lot and if anything tried too hard in the final third, we (I) knew we wouldn't turn into world beaters overnight but at least we are trying to attack, press high up and pass the ball now.
100% support to the end of the season and we will pull through and improve drastically
Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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Agreed we actually looked like we would get something out of thisOriginally posted by Craig_H View PostThat sums it up IMO. We played better and looked more like winning TONIGHT, than we did at Bolton, where we actually DID win.Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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just got home from pub!!! dire dire dire performance - we have real problems - worse than i thought - we can't keep the ball, we can't keep possesion for more than five passes without making mistakes, the first touch is terrible all round, the general all round technique abysmal
i am no convinced, that centre mid is becoming more and more a priority t improve - no fight, no pace, no bite - it's embarrasing - lucas and meireles are just meh....they are average, tidy simple footballers..
dirk dirk dirk - deary me, he's times gone - dreadful performance but he has been like that the last 3 or 4 games - first touch is so bad his second touch is a tackle - he makes the wrong decision every time he is in possesion, he has no pace, offers no threat, no final ball - sorry, cheers for ur hard work and ur professionalism but we have to move on from him now
defence - oh god, what a cluster **** that is - though they got no protection from midfield which was just non existant - hence why i think it is so vital for us to find someone who can do that job
and i aint starting on poulsen or jovanovic
also - very very disappointed we didnt' react sooner - we were struggling well before they scored - kuyt should have been taken off for maxi at half time - and then we should have been looking at ngog for poulsen if needed later on
need investment/need players now!i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do
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5 days and we have already seen two much improved performances (maybe not results fair enough)Originally posted by ronanm View PostI'll reiterate, Kenny has only been here 5 days and is without SG. In time. you knee jerkers......
But better performances will yield better resultsBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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