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    It would be interesting to compare the average points after this many games in the season to previous years. We'd have quite a good idea if the points really are lower comparatively then.
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      Originally posted by dizzycat View Post
      It would be interesting to compare the average points after this many games in the season to previous years. We'd have quite a good idea if the points really are lower comparatively then.
      Based on table from Feb 10th 2010 and the current table (as of last night)

      ..... Last season This Season
      Pos..Pl...PTS.......Pl...PTS
      1.....26..58.........25...54
      2.....26..57.........25...50
      3.....26..52.........26...49
      4.....26..44.........25...44
      5.....24..44.........25...44
      6.....26..43.........26...38
      7.....25..42.........25...42
      8.....25..37.........26...33
      9.....25..35.........25...33
      10...26..34..........25...31
      11...26..31..........26...31
      12...24..30..........26...30
      13...25..26..........25...30
      14...25..24..........26...29
      15...25..24..........25...28
      16...24..24..........24...27
      17...26..24..........25...26
      18...25..23..........25...23
      19...24..22..........25...24
      20...25..16..........26...24

      Ratios last season:this season
      Total games played 252:254
      Total points 690:688

      Average points per game for a top 6 club 1.93:1.83

      The number of points picked over the whole league is about the same as last year but the number of points per game picked up by the top 6 clubs is ~0.1 points per game less, meaning that the points are more evenly spread over the league than last year and that a top 6 club is on average 2.6 points worse off than they were at this stage last year.

      EDIT: I got the stats from here:
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/8505029.stm
      Last edited by Exiled_red; 07-02-11, 06:13 PM.
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        Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
        Based on table from Feb 10th 2010 and the current table (as of last night)

        ..... Last season This Season
        Pos..Pl...PTS.......Pl...PTS
        1.....26..58.........25...54
        2.....26..57.........25...50
        3.....26..52.........26...49
        4.....26..44.........25...44
        5.....24..44.........25...44
        6.....26..43.........26...38
        7.....25..42.........25...42
        8.....25..37.........26...33
        9.....25..35.........25...33
        10...26..34..........25...31
        11...26..31..........26...31
        12...24..30..........26...30
        13...25..26..........25...30
        14...25..24..........26...29
        15...25..24..........25...28
        16...24..24..........24...27
        17...26..24..........25...26
        18...25..23..........25...23
        19...24..22..........25...24
        20...25..16..........26...24

        Ratios last season:this season
        Total games played 252:254
        Total points 690:688

        Average points per game for a top 6 club 1.93:1.83

        The number of points picked over the whole league is about the same as last year but the number of points per game picked up by the top 6 clubs is ~0.1 points per game less, meaning that the points are more evenly spread over the league than last year and that a top 6 club is on average 2.6 points worse off than they were at this stage last year.

        EDIT: I got the stats from here:
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/8505029.stm
        Based on that at the current rate the 4th placed team will get 64.3 points. Im quite confident that 65-67 points would clinch 4th.

        The next 3 games are vital with Spurs having 3 tough games, we can really turn the screw.

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          Originally posted by magicalbarnes View Post
          Based on that at the current rate the 4th placed team will get 64.3 points. Im quite confident that 65-67 points would clinch 4th.

          The next 3 games are vital with Spurs having 3 tough games, we can really turn the screw.
          agreed.

          now about that signature of yours, what would you have him doing? match day catering?
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            Originally posted by Muddled View Post
            Chelsea won't be ****ed if they don't qualify for the Champions League, as they will overhaul their squad with money.
            FFP Rules says I don't think so..........
            Forwards.......

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              Originally posted by magicalbarnes View Post
              Based on that at the current rate the 4th placed team will get 64.3 points. Im quite confident that 65-67 points would clinch 4th.

              The next 3 games are vital with Spurs having 3 tough games, we can really turn the screw.
              I think 65-67 is probably going to be about right, I worry about our Goal difference though (Chelsea have a GD of +24 while we have a GD of +3) so we might need an extra point.
              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                I think if we win every game we'll get it as that would be 74 points. But that's not going to happen. Drawing three games gives us 68 points, but even that is a tough ask when we still have to play Arsenal, Sunderland and Villa away, as well as Man Utd, Man City and Spurs at home. Any normal season and a draw in those particular fixtures wouldn't be the worst result (although not acceptable drawing all of course). That shows you just how tough an ask it will be.

                Not forgetting we also have to brush aside the other teams we have to play, which this season we have shown prior to Kenny taking over we have not really been capable of doing so.

                But my last though is this: It's great just to be even thinking about this and comparing results and fixtures.
                Forwards.......

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                  Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                  I worry about our Goal difference though (Chelsea have a GD of +24 while we have a GD of +3) so we might need an extra point.
                  Our goal difference is bad, but for us to catch Chelsea we need them to slip up and us to win virtually all our games, so naturally our GD would improve. We'd have to thrash a good few teams along the way but games like Wigan at home, sometimes a tough nut to crack Wigan, but if we get a couple of early goals the floodgates could well open.
                  Forwards.......

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                    Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                    I think if we win every game we'll get it as that would be 74 points. But that's not going to happen. Drawing three games gives us 68 points, but even that is a tough ask when we still have to play Arsenal, Sunderland and Villa away, as well as Man Utd, Man City and Spurs at home. Any normal season and a draw in those particular fixtures wouldn't be the worst result (although not acceptable drawing all of course). That shows you just how tough an ask it will be.

                    Not forgetting we also have to brush aside the other teams we have to play, which this season we have shown prior to Kenny taking over we have not really been capable of doing so.

                    But my last though is this: It's great just to be even thinking about this and comparing results and fixtures.
                    Villa away is the last game of the season, they will be guaranteed safety well before then and will have nothing to play for.

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                      On an unrelated note, the Mancs finish with a home game against Blackpool. Awfully nice of the Premier League that, isn't it?! Again. Start with a home game against a promoted team, nearly every year, and a nice little gift at the end too.
                      Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                        How often has the title gone to the last day though? I dont think it'll matter.

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                          Me neither but it's a lovely safety net if it does go to the wire.
                          Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                            Depends if Blackpool are safe or still fighting for survival

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                              Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                              agreed.

                              now about that signature of yours, what would you have him doing? match day catering?
                              Iv had that signature for about a month now, and i stand by it. I really hope though that Kenny gets it right and we dont have to bring anyone in.

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                                I can see the mancs getting a win and a draw against chelsea and I also think that chelsea will panic and drop some more points, we also have to worry about spurs dropping points and I think / hope that they do as well

                                same as dannyman I'm made up to be thinking like this, over Christmas I had next to zero interest in football

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