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    #31
    Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
    I would love that to be true, but i cant see what their objective is, if not to make money. Obviously they want us to win, and that's how they can make their money - but they arent LFC fans, so what is their emotional reasoning behind wanting us to win, if not that it'll make them money and lead to success?

    I'm open-minded to hearing the answer to that - my view is my view, but it's not cast in stone, so i'm all ears.

    I think at the very beginning they said theoretically they would like to make some money from the club but that they would also like to make some from the Red Sox and never had.

    Something along those lines anyway.

    I think they're basically sports fans who think they can get us to a place where we're succesful and if that happens there'll be a couple of bob in it for them too.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Arn View Post
      The only problem with FSG as I see it is that they didn't had a plan ready in case they ended up as our owner. They should have had a plan for what to do with Roy, the transfer window and the stadium from day one. That they didn't had that could end up costing us fourth place. It probably cost us Torres.They didn't had time to sit down and learn about the club. They should have done that several months before they bought the club so they already knew what to do from day one. A new CEO should have been ready from day one.

      They have still not decided what to do with the stadium for example. They only now have maybe a month or two to decide on that because we must start working on that this summer. They should have had a plan ready for that from day one.
      name me a club who has been bought and they have had a vision from day one? are you saying fsg should have spent millions on looking for a ceo, spent money on designing stadium, feasibilty studies etc just on the off chance they become owners? Rome wasnt built in a day.
      _____________________________________

      Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

      Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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        #33
        Originally posted by Arn View Post
        The only problem with FSG as I see it is that they didn't had a plan ready in case they ended up as our owner. They should have had a plan for what to do with Roy, the transfer window and the stadium from day one. That they didn't had that could end up costing us fourth place. It probably cost us Torres.

        They didn't had time to sit down and learn about the club. They should have done that several months before they bought the club so they already knew what to do from day one. A new CEO should have been ready from day one.

        They have still not decided what to do with the stadium for example. They only now have maybe a month or two to decide on that because we must start working on that this summer. They should have had a plan ready for that from day one.
        Sorry mate, which day do you think they should have all that in place?
        I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
        There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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          #34
          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
          I would love that to be true, but i cant see what their objective is, if not to make money. Obviously they want us to win, and that's how they can make their money - but they arent LFC fans, so what is their emotional reasoning behind wanting us to win, if not that it'll make them money and lead to success?

          I'm open-minded to hearing the answer to that - my view is my view, but it's not cast in stone, so i'm all ears.
          They are now.

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            #35
            great interview

            also @ Mr.M huge differences.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Arn View Post
              The only problem with FSG as I see it is that they didn't had a plan ready in case they ended up as our owner.
              Out of interest, do you own a business Arn?
              Was muß, das muß.

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                #37
                Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                No H&G didn't. They went about waving cash in the air talking about Snoogy Doogy, tried to blag us that they hadn't put any debt on the club, then started flirting with Jurgen Klinsmann.

                As for the transfer window, we were in negotiations for Suarez for a considerable length of time, well before Chelsea turned up tempting "he who shall not be named". Going back over the history of the Jan transfer window, very rarely do that many players move then, not do the big clubs tend to spend all that much money in it (this year's was the exception really). Traditionally that's because clubs don't want to sell mid season making it hard to get decent value.

                At no point have FSG said they will spend ridiculous amounts of cash, and neither frankly do I want them to. LFC as a club needs to be run the right way, sustainably, with money spent at the right times on quality. H&G splashed the cash in their first season, primarily on xxxxxxx.... and then spent the next years recouping it through dismantling the club.

                Being good owners does not mean opening a blank cheque book at the first possible opportunity.
                In principle I agree totally with your points. I am just very wary of any new owners, once bitten twice shy etc. I dont believe a word Kenny or anybody else says about the cash being there or not, it may well be. If we are serious about rebuilding, this was a good chance to show it and they didn't. Young etc will not be any cheaper in summer, dopy City have raised the cross-bar again with their stupid spending, all clubs who dont need to sell will be asking stupid money, the time of year doesn't matter.

                I don't "not" have faith in our new owners, but actions speak louder than words, we have been there and done that already.
                Those that hid Anne Frank were breaking the law.
                Those that killed her, were following the law.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by foresterbloke View Post
                  Out of interest, do you own a business Arn?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by foresterbloke View Post
                    Out of interest, do you own a business Arn?
                    Yes, a betting shop. We had a plan what we wanted to do with it several months before I and a couple of mates bought it. We had everything ready in case we would buy it.

                    Cost us a bit extra but we have probably already earned that money back because we had a plan ready from day one. We contacted the companies needed to be contacted so we could start our plan from day one.
                    Stop the cyberhate


                    from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                    Susan Black

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                        No H&G didn't. They went about waving cash in the air talking about Snoogy Doogy, tried to blag us that they hadn't put any debt on the club, then started flirting with Jurgen Klinsmann.

                        As for the transfer window, we were in negotiations for Suarez for a considerable length of time, well before Chelsea turned up tempting "he who shall not be named". Going back over the history of the Jan transfer window, very rarely do that many players move then, not do the big clubs tend to spend all that much money in it (this year's was the exception really). Traditionally that's because clubs don't want to sell mid season making it hard to get decent value.

                        At no point have FSG said they will spend ridiculous amounts of cash, and neither frankly do I want them to. LFC as a club needs to be run the right way, sustainably, with money spent at the right times on quality. H&G splashed the cash in their first season, primarily on xxxxxxx.... and then spent the next years recouping it through dismantling the club.

                        Being good owners does not mean opening a blank cheque book at the first possible opportunity.
                        Very good post.
                        Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by kev776 View Post
                          In principle I agree totally with your points. I am just very wary of any new owners, once bitten twice shy etc. I dont believe a word Kenny or anybody else says about the cash being there or not, it may well be. If we are serious about rebuilding, this was a good chance to show it and they didn't. Young etc will not be any cheaper in summer, dopy City have raised the cross-bar again with their stupid spending, all clubs who dont need to sell will be asking stupid money, the time of year doesn't matter.

                          I don't "not" have faith in our new owners, but actions speak louder than words, we have been there and done that already.
                          I can totally understand where you're coming from, but I genuinely believe that these guys are the real deal.

                          If the whole Torres thing had not come about, spending £23m on Suarez would have "shown it" somewhat. When Judas mk II did his thing they then didn't blink at instantly reinvesting that money straight back into the team with Carroll. Those are good signs you have to admit. And lets be fair, having had £50m come in it would have been pretty hard to have had a large net spend this window. I think FSG are perfectly prepared to spend, however that money has to be spent sustainably and at the right points, not just thrown about for the sake of spending. In all honesty, although that might put us at a disadvantage in the face of Citeh and Chelsea, that is the right way to go about the business imo.

                          Young etc may not be cheaper in the summer, but perhaps better players will become available, or better value can be got as selling clubs will have time to get replacements etc. The time of year does matter a little; prior to this Jan I believe all 10 of the biggest transfers of all time happened in summer windows? Clubs never buy as many or as much in Jan as in the summer. And besides, they weren't / aren't even sure who our manager will be next year etc; what our club needs most right now, ahead even of simple investment in playing staff, is people with level heads to take a calm, considered and long-term approach to returning us to the top. Everything FSG have done so far really does give me solid belief that they are those people.
                          I could not dig, I dared not rob:
                          Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                          Now all my lies are proved untrue
                          And I must face the men I slew.
                          What tale shall serve me here among
                          Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                            #43
                            Kenny seems to get along with them fine and has even given them praise. That's good enough for me.

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                              #44
                              it's not like they've sold our best player for 80m pounds and then waited a year to finally replace him with a 7m pound amateur from the streets of portugal is it? is it?

                              quite.
                              dave of mutilation

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                                #45
                                On John W. Henry's facebook

                                'I don't see us as saviours or seeking sporting immortality. It just so happens the club was facing bankruptcy and the competitiveness of the club had been damaged.

                                It was really about the ability to compete at the highest level in a sport that is more of a meritocracy than what we were used to.'
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                                'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'

                                Bill Shankly.

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