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    Originally posted by Big-Red-Ed View Post
    I stand by my comments on Lucas. I accept that he has got better and there are things he does very well now but he offers nothing offensively. Never has and never will. Can't make an incisive forward pass, can't cross and can't shoot. Carra will score again before Lucas. (comical comment to prove a point!)

    At this moment neither are really good enough if we want to truely kick on to the next level. But at least Jay would be happy to play a more reserve roll.
    Play him in an offensive role and he'll offer things going forward. Last night, as all this season, he has been asked to play deep. It was always Jay slightly ahead of him. Not because Lucas is inferior going forward, but because he is more experienced and sitting in front of the back 4.
    Forwards.......

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      Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
      Good stat. Is there a breakdown percentage of successful tackles vs unsuccessful ones?
      244 total number of tackles
      139 won
      105 lost

      Percentage of success 56.9%
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        Good work. Now find me stats to show how this compares with other players of his position.

        Results a bit quicker this time, yeah?

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          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
          He does a simple, yet crucial job, very very well. Break up the play, win the ball, give it. Hamann-esque.
          Hamann was better than Lucas though.

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            Originally posted by anfieldanfield View Post
            Hamann was better than Lucas though.
            Fair enough that. But what about at 23 years old?

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              Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
              Good work. Now find me stats to show how this compares with other players of his position.

              Results a bit quicker this time, yeah?
              Sure thing
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                Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                Fair enough that. But what about at 23 years old?
                Lucas is 24 or 25 I think.

                If Lucas keeps improving then I think he'll be as good as Hamann.

                It will be very interesting this summer to see if Commolli is in for a top quality defensive midfielder or not.

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                  Ah yes, Lucas is 24, you're right. Only turned 24 in January though

                  He's doing the same job as Hamann did for us, and doing it well. He may not be at Hamann's peak level yet, but he's better than Didi was at 24. I wouldnt mind another DM but i'd want one of the 'beast' variety, because Lucas isnt a beast. He is very good though.

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                    And by the way, i'd very much like for the people who insist that i form an opinion and 'stick to it/never change it', to observe my vastly different opinion of Lucas, compared to how i viewed him 2 or 3 years ago.

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                      Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                      And by the way, i'd very much like for the people who insist that i form an opinion and 'stick to it/never change it', to observe my vastly different opinion of Lucas, compared to how i viewed him 2 or 3 years ago.
                      The exception that proves the rule.

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                        Nah, that would have been Kuyt

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                          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                          And by the way, i'd very much like for the people who insist that i form an opinion and 'stick to it/never change it', to observe my vastly different opinion of Lucas, compared to how i viewed him 2 or 3 years ago.
                          I knew you were in rehab when you went missing. This proves it
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                            What a happy couple.

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                              Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                              Are you talking about the couple in the white ?
                              Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                                Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                                What a happy couple.

                                The woman looks tidy for a old bird
                                I think it's a foul, and if the ref gives it. He got to give a penalty. I know it's outside the box, but you see them given that close to the area. So if the ref gives it he's got to give the penalty as it so close to the area. But I think it's a penalty. Robbie Savage 8/11/06

                                Are you watching Manchester United? Are you watching Chelsea? This is Liverpool F.C taking over the bloody world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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