Molby: Agger could be out for the season

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Realistically we will be paying that to any player of note. Letting someone of his quality who makes a real difference to the first team when he plays go because he has a salary probably of similar size to Jovanovic seems like prioritising things wrongly to me.

if we didnt play him as a necessity it may prolong his career and we may conversely get more games out of him.

[CJ]

for me the going is more about the fee we will recieve and thinking how much will that value go down and then thinking of the impact considering financial fair play

the lease i think is get his replacement in this summer and sell him next summer?

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for me the going is more about the fee we will recieve and thinking how much will that value go down and then thinking of the impact considering financial fair play

the lease i think is get his replacement in this summer and sell him next summer?

I can see that argument - I just think that to get a replacement with the same qualities as Agger would cost way more than we could get for him. Also there is no guarantee that player would settle or be any fitter than him.

How much would you expect to get for Agger given his current injury record?

[Vermilion]

arn you accuse the english of bias towards english players. is it possible that you are biased and cant see that agger is a crock.

very good footballer very important but you just cant have someone that important injured so often.

you can argue that he would be less injured in spain. However there is a small problem with that and its Liverpool dont play in la liga.

He would'nt be that important though, we're just talking about keeping him, but keeping him does'nt mean him being our automatic first choice just because we do hang on to him, we WILL have to buy some top defenders, and Agger would be a top squad player, not expected to play every game or be our No1.

That's my thinking anyway, it's not like he cost us 30mill so i think it's a good way forward.

[CJ]

I can see that argument - I just think that to get a replacement with the same qualities as Agger would cost way more than we could get for him. Also there is no guarantee that player would settle or be any fitter than him.

How much would you expect to get for Agger given his current injury record?

i imagine it will cost a lot of money to get a quality replacement for agger. I certainly didnt think it would be cheap. and reason for my move from sell him now to sell him next season is that the hope the new player will have settled. THe thing is regardless of all of that aggers value is probably falling and for a player that doesnt play very much ??(his in the team out of the team also destabilises the defence, which is compencated by his ability when he plays but look at the effect when he doesnt)

the reason to sell him is that the owners can only fund transfers of 10m a season over three season the rest has to be self funding. (not sure if that figure is correct but it seems familiar no doubt someone will know the actual figure) so in terms of squad rebuilding its almost a must. We want that quality centre back so lets get him. I do know its a risk when getting any player. I suppose its about balancing the risk and maybe or even probably its better to make sure we have the stable base rather than quibble over a million or two for a player sale (the million or two being the difference to aggers value now against next year possibly)

He would'nt be that important though, we're just talking about keeping him, but keeping him does'nt mean him being our automatic first choice just because we do hang on to him, we WILL have to buy some top defenders, and Agger would be a top squad player, not expected to play every game or be our No1.

That's my thinking anyway, it's not like he cost us 30mill so i think it's a good way forward.

the argument about not keeping him was more about getting the best possible transfer fee. Also the thing about injured players being squad players is that people think when 1st choice is injured put cover in. if you have injury prone cover or squad player (i dont like calling agger a squad player doesnt sound or feel right) then the actual reality is they may well be injured at the same time so actualy cant do the job of cover.

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Doubt we'll ever get a good fee for him now tbh.

And weighing up a player like Agger being cover and maybe getting injured and not being available now and then even though he'd be expected to play less, as opposed to having a player as cover who does'nt get injured as often but is'nt half the player Agger is, looking at his average of games, i think he could handle being a squad player, but with a special training routine a la Ledley King...maybe.

It's a hard one, as noone can see into the future, our Docs should know what's for the best, if it's even possible to diagnose a player being injury prone all his remaining career, but if we decide to sell him on, i'm sure any buying clubs doctor would give similar advice, so i don't see a big fee.

[CJ]

yeah i get that point. the issue i have with it is that it doesnt matter how good a player is if they re always injured.

lets have aurellio for cover at lb he is a class lb. slight problem is he is injured all the time so when we need him for cover he isnt there.

thats the principle i am talking about.

but please dont think i want daniel agger the footballer somewhere eles as i dont its just i hardly see him and can we use that money much better?

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yeah i get that point. the issue i have with it is that it doesnt matter how good a player is if they re always injured.

lets have aurellio for cover at lb he is a class lb. slight problem is he is injured all the time so when we need him for cover he isnt there.

thats the principle i am talking about.

but please dont think i want daniel agger the footballer somewhere eles as i dont its just i hardly see him and can we use that money much better?

Totally understand where your coming from, and on previous Agger history we'd be mad to keep him if someone offered us a good price, i just don't think it'll happen.

I would so love to see him stay fit for two or three seasons here, with the players we can now hopefully sign he'd be a huge assett. Such a shame.

[CJ]

Totally understand where your coming from, and on previous Agger history we'd be mad to keep him if someone offered us a good price, i just don't think it'll happen.

yeah i suppose your right there.

sorry for appearing argumentative about it. i just think people see what they want so people say if agger gets over his injuries. he really wont look at his age those that get over it have by now. The reality is that we want him to as he really is a class player and makes such a difference and is so important when he plays.

why cant he just be bloody fit then we wouldnt need threads like this

but the thing is imagine what a player we will get if we find a replacement.

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yeah i suppose your right there.

sorry for appearing argumentative about it. i just think people see what they want so people say if agger gets over his injuries. he really wont look at his age those that get over it have by now. The reality is that we want him to as he really is a class player and makes such a difference and is so important when he plays.

why cant he just be bloody fit then we wouldnt need threads like this

but the thing is imagine what a player we will get if we find a replacement.

Nah you've not been argumentative at all, you've made very valid points.

Agger is a proving to be a Liverpool heartbreaker, it's like we've all been shown what we have...which is a superb young player that fit...could lead the defensive line for years...and yet we don't get to use him. (not nearly often enough anyway)

[CJ]

Nah you've not been argumentative at all, you've made very valid points.

Agger is a proving to be a Liverpool heartbreaker, it's like we've all been shown what we have...which is a superb young player that fit...could lead the defensive line for years...and yet we don't get to use him. (not nearly often enough anyway)

yeah he actually is one of my favourite players too. Certainly has an air of class about him.

[Rudo]

Unfortunately we should be looking to offload Agger in the summer...how are we meant to have a stable and solid back line with a Ledley King type player in terms of injuries?

He's a cracking player, we all know that, but we can't be doing with someone that misses as many games as Agger does.

[Mostar]

Unfortunately we should be looking to offload Agger in the summer...how are we meant to have a stable and solid back line with a Ledley King type player in terms of injuries?

He's a cracking player, we all know that, but we can't be doing with someone that misses as many games as Agger does.

Let's say hypothetically that we decide to sell how much can we get for him?