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    GuillemBalagueGuillem Balague
    So...Suarez to Madrid, rubbish! Chelsea offer for Di Maria, same, no way!
    Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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      4 down, 5 to go. We've faired ok without him, so far.

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        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
        GuillemBalagueGuillem Balague
        So...Suarez to Madrid, rubbish! Chelsea offer for Di Maria, same, no way!
        "Justice has been done."

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          Originally posted by Mostar View Post
          He won Copa America with Uruguay and was The Best Player of the Tournament (ahead of Messi for that matter) and that should have been taken into consideration.
          Yeah I was talking in the context of club football (see my earlier post). I'm not really sure why any one feels that any set of criteria here are necessarily the correct ones - it's a very subjective judgement being made.
          "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
          -- William Blake

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            Originally posted by Icon View Post


            FIFA have very selective memories.
            Rafa even said Messi is nowhere near the God in S America as he is in Spain...
            Who is this 'FIFA' of which you speak? Isn't the award voted for by country captains and managers and select journos?
            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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              Originally posted by dww View Post
              Who is this 'FIFA' of which you speak? Isn't the award voted for by country captains and managers and select journos?

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                Was just in an argument with a Spurs fan earlier today about who was better Cavani or Suarez. He was saying Cavani was world class and Suarez had a long way to go before he got that level. Needless to say, his opinions on football are from now on going in one ear and out the other.

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                  I dont know much about that much about Cavani. Is he the one that plays for Napoli? You cant deny his goal scoring record, Wikipedia says its 1 in 2 pretty much.
                  *Except Michael, who died.

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                    I agree that Cavani is amazing and maybe even world class, at least soon to be. Suarez is better though, what he has done in the world cup and the Copa America. Cavani's goal record is 106 in 212 overall and Suarez's is 149 in 262 overall and 52 assists according to wikipedia. (Doesn't say Cavani's assist record).

                    Suarez is world class already.

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                      Also for Uruguay Suarez's record is 26 in 52 and Cavani's is 10 in 36.

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                        Originally posted by acdmackay View Post
                        I agree that Cavani is amazing and maybe even world class, at least soon to be. Suarez is better though, what he has done in the world cup and the Copa America. Cavani's goal record is 106 in 212 overall and Suarez's is 149 in 262 overall and 52 assists according to wikipedia. (Doesn't say Cavani's assist record).

                        Suarez is world class already.
                        Cavani is not a world class as he hasn't shown that on the world scene (very quit during Copa America and WC) just yet and he needs to play in the better league and the team competing for top honours all the time where pressure to succeed and make an impact is tremendous.

                        Goal scoring record can help his reputation but not turn him into a world beater especially when he is presently playing in arguably 4th league in football.

                        Not there yet for me and needs to make a step into La Liga and/or PL and take that league by storm before he can be considered as world class.

                        Suarez is world class now.
                        Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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                          Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                          Suarez is world class now.
                          Hmm, I'm not sure about that.

                          I like Suarez but for me his final ball / decision making puts him in that bracket just below world class imo.

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                            I think Suarez has shown for Uruguay he is truly world class. He has only shown us flashes of what he is capable of, and I put that down to the generally average players (Stevie apart) he is surrounded by in this current team.
                            "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                              Possibly Tee.

                              He's still a bit bloody good though.

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                                Originally posted by Lee View Post
                                Hmm, I'm not sure about that.

                                I like Suarez but for me his final ball / decision making puts him in that bracket just below world class imo.
                                He is one of top 2,3 best players in PL and by many the best footballer in PL.

                                That on its own should be enough to classify him as a world class and that is not including his achievements playing for Uruguay this year and winning the prestigious "Best player of the Tournament" award ahead of Messi this past summer.

                                To me there is so much more to Suarez's game than just scoring goals and imo he's without the doubt the world class.
                                Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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