Luis Suárez

[Kenneth]

Don't be so negative Dave. We wouldn't get there anyway.

[Fosterbloke]

we need acronyms.

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[Marina]

A lot of very interesting perspectives in here.

In one sense, I agree with Shaggy. Suarez is an incredible talent and it's been a privilege to see him playing for Liverpool FC. A move to Real Madrid would make sense and it really would be some kind of flukey aberration if they made a bid and he turned it down. Although the instinctive thing is to be sad and upset about it, he's only doing what everyone else in his line of work does.

In another sense, I understand and agree with Venton's resentment. The fact that he might very well leave and has used his treatment in the media as an excuse really does leave a bad taste in my mouth. Although I have enjoyed watching Suarez play, the racism incident was a really dark era in my time supporting this club. I know that might make some of you roll your eyes or laugh because I'm relatively young and probably somewhat naïve, but it's true. I've learned since then not to pay nearly as much attention to the media but so many awful things were said by journalists and scores of regular people about the club I love. Yes, we can point to the club's own PR shortfalls at that point in time, but I hate to see Liverpool's name dragged through the mud and time and time again, Suarez has made the club look bad.

I also really don't appreciate the "he deserves better than us" line. Yes. I know. Liverpool are "a bit ****e" and have been for the past two decades, save a few years here and there. I know other clubs, specifically storied and continually successful clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona, will always be attractive to players, no matter who they are or where they come from. I acknowledge that this is just the way it is.

Nevertheless, I support Liverpool FC and I will always be of the opinion that it's an absolute ****ing privilege to play for this club. Any and all players who sign should be 100% aware of the weight of history upon their shoulders and the significance Liverpool bears to the footballing world. People mock us for being attached to our history but what's the ****ing point? What is the point of all these trophies and titles? They're just pieces of metal. The real significance is in how the clubs are remembered for years to come, for the legacies they bear to the idiotic legions of football supporters we belong to. For this reason, Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs on Earth and players like Luis Suarez are not above it all. They don't deserve "better." Maybe they would like to win medals and trophies and be able to put them away in a safe or display case. Still, I totally oppose the idea that other clubs are objectively better than we are just because they're more competitive than we are now.

It's an emotional argument which won't sit well with many of the pragmatists who post on here. I admire your ability to be so even-handed. It must make your life easier. But being a Liverpool supporter, or a supporter of any team quite frankly, should probably incorporate some kind of positive bias. There's no better team than Liverpool for me. If a player doesn't think so, **** him. I don't have to love him after he leaves just because he scored lots of goals for us.

[little dave hedgehog]

tell us how you really feel, dear

[Marina]

Don't belittle me when I'm impassioned! hmph.

[Bender]

Don't belittle me when I'm impassioned! hmph.

Ok behave don't make me ban you all

[little dave hedgehog]

i'm not belittling you. everyone loves a good rant.

[Marina]

Ok. Sorry for jumping all over you

[little dave hedgehog]

awww

[cannotmakeit]

get a room!

[Pablo]

I don't think he's said or done a great deal wrong. I'm gonna be pretty disheartened if he winds up being a hate figure with the fans, like Torres.

One of the elite players in the world - who 100% deserves to be playing at the highest level, something we can't provide - is wanted by one of the top two clubs in the world and he wants to go there. It's not new.

We seem to make up these arbitrary boundaries for players who've left, with randomly different criterion for each one. Making it up as we go along ffs. Alonso is mainly a hero, Mascherano's a cunt, Torres is a cunt. Surely Suarez ain't gonna be seen as a cunt too? They all did (or Suarez is about to do) essentially the same thing. We're becoming a right bunch of quilts. There was a time when I could count on one or two fingers the number of ex players who'd get booed coming back to Anfield. The list now seems to get longer every year.

With every world class Spanish or South American there's always the risk they'll want to go to Barca or Real at some point. It was obvious this is how it would end for Suarez at LFC when I saw just how good he was. I hope he stays but if he goes we ought to get huge wedge for him and off he'll go. I'll always love him as a footballer. Amazing player....been thrilling watching him play for us.

It's all just a ****ing game. To me it's clear he wants to go because he wants to play for Real Madrid and contend for titles and the CL every year, and this "the media hate me" line - while clearly overblown if you look at that Uruguayan lad's interpretation - is just a cover in the belief it'll make it easier for us to swallow.....rather than saying "LFC are a bit ****e and I'm way better than this so I need to go", which is essentially where I think he's at. Understandably.

I just look at that reception he got off the Ajax fans after leaving them in almost identical circumstances (bigger club come calling after bite incident) - I'd love for us to give him similar receptions if ever we met again. He deserves it. Been a ****ing incredible player for us, a genius and a warrior. A rare treat.

That's pretty much what I've been saying on here for the last couple of days, but you just put it (a lot) more eloquently (you absolute *******)

It would have been an absolute miracle if he'd stayed, I won't think bad of him for leaving, not one bit.

Thanks for the amazing memories Luis

[rodo]

a feeling you get for a player is the same as you get for a feeling you get for a bird who you fall head over heels for and you think she is the best thing on two legs but once she dumps you she becomes a dog this is exactly what most will be feeling about luis just hopefully another fit bird will come along to cheer us all up

[Norbs]

Such a shame that he's going to inevitably warm the bench at Madrid on occasions. It goes against ecerthing we believe he wanted from the club he played for. He won't get the adulation there but obviously that doesn't rank as highly in his mind either.

[Bender]

Suarez should i stay or should i go ?

[Fan65]

And sorry, don't take this the wrong way, and I know this will go down like a lead balloon on here, but Kenny needed no help in making himself look like a dickhead.

He always will be a respected legend, but that season is better entirely forgotten, it was a complete and utter balls up by all parties in every possible way.

Have you already forgotten the two Wembley Cup Finals?

KK