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Paul.S
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:32 am
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Probably rubbish, but would not surprise me in the least. Unfortunately in the transfer market there are two values for a player Wenger value, and the actual value, one is rather higher than the other.
I'm sure he is happy to bid for Suarez all the time there is no danger of actually having to sign him, and then he can justify himself by saying "at least we tried".
Last post in their Suarez thread sounds about right.
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Wenger said: "I don't want to speak about Suarez, because that is between Liverpool and Arsenal. We will completely respect what Liverpool wants to do. We want to (sign the player) if it is feasible in an amicable way.
"I am a great believer you have to keep as much confidentiality as possible, which is quite difficult in the modern world.
"But we work very hard, not only on the case you name, but on other different cases."
Suarez is serving a domestic 10-game ban imposed by the FA for biting Chelsea's Branislav Ivanovic and he has previously served an eight-match suspension for racially abusing Patrice Evra.
Wenger said that if Suarez does become an Arsenal player, such behaviour will not be tolerated.
He said: "We have values that we want our players to respect. No matter where they come from, we will be very touchy on that of course.
"This club has built a reputation, not only during my period here but over 127 years, and the values that are very important for this club have to be respected by every player, no matter where he comes from. That will be with every potential signing." sky
Wenger said: "I don't want to speak about Suarez, because that is between Liverpool and Arsenal. We will completely respect what Liverpool wants to do. We want to (sign the player) if it is feasible in an amicable way.
"I am a great believer you have to keep as much confidentiality as possible, which is quite difficult in the modern world.
"But we work very hard, not only on the case you name, but on other different cases."
Suarez is serving a domestic 10-game ban imposed by the FA for biting Chelsea's Branislav Ivanovic and he has previously served an eight-match suspension for racially abusing Patrice Evra.
Wenger said that if Suarez does become an Arsenal player, such behaviour will not be tolerated.
He said: "We have values that we want our players to respect. No matter where they come from, we will be very touchy on that of course.
"This club has built a reputation, not only during my period here but over 127 years, and the values that are very important for this club have to be respected by every player, no matter where he comes from. That will be with every potential signing." sky
George Graham
Paul Merson
Tony Adams
Kenny Samson
Franny Jeffers
George Graham
Paul Merson
Tony Adams
Kenny Samson
Franny Jeffers
all shining lights of respectability
You left out Peter Storey.
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
Luis Suarez will consider submitting a formal transfer request and the possibility of court action if his Liverpool dispute is not resolved. say sources close to the player.
The 26-year-old believes Arsenal's bid of just over £40m triggered a clause in his contract that allows him to leave.
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Wenger to remain 'amicable'
Liverpool rejected the offer and insist the clause does not force them to sell.
"We want to [sign Suarez] if it is feasible in an amicable way," said Gunners manager Arsene Wenger.
"We will respect what Liverpool want to do. I don't want to speak about Suarez, because that is between Liverpool and Arsenal.
"I am a great believer you have to keep as much confidentiality as possible, which is quite difficult in the modern world.
"But we work very hard, not only on the case you name, but on other different cases. We can still strengthen the squad, there is one month to go. We are at the beginning of August and working very hard to strengthen our squad.
"I am confident. You look at many teams around us. Nothing has happened until now. At the moment the market hasn't moved a lot. Apart from Manchester City, nobody has done anything."
Arsenal made their club-record offer of £40m plus £1 for Suarez in the belief that it would enable them to secure the Uruguay international's services.
Liverpool continue to insist that Suarez is not for sale.
It is understood that when Suarez signed a new contract in August 2012, he requested a clause that allowed him to depart if Liverpool failed to qualify for the Champions League and received a bid in excess of £40m.
Suarez in numbers
Luis Suarez
30 goals in 44 appearances for Liverpool last season
Since joining from Ajax in January 2011 for £22.7m, has scored 51 in 96 appearances
49 goals in 48 games for Ajax the season before joining Liverpool
35 goals in 69 appearances for Uruguay
Liverpool refused this but suggested an arrangement that obliged them to act in good faith if those conditions were met, which Suarez argues he only accepted because he felt there was verbal agreement from all parties that - despite the new wording - it would work in the same way as a release clause.
While Liverpool are confident that from a legal perspective their position stands up to scrutiny - and Suarez reluctantly agrees - the player is adamant the Reds have gone back on their word and feels let down.
He has informed Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers of his desire to leave for Champions League football and the only proposal on the table is from Arsenal, with reported interest from Real Madrid failing to materialise.
Whereas Liverpool have not played in the Champions League since 2009 and missed out on European qualification altogether for next season, Arsenal will feature in the competition for a 17th consecutive campaign.
Sources close to Suarez say he will consider taking his case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport and he did go down a similar route when Dutch side Groningen turned down an offer from Ajax for his services in 2007.
He scored 30 goals in 44 appearances for Liverpool last season but speculation has grown about his future since he was given a 10-match ban in April for biting Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanovic.
Suarez, who joined Liverpool from Ajax for £22.7m in January 2011, still has to serve six games of that ban and was also suspended in 2011 after being found guilty of racially abusing Manchester United defender Patrice Evra.
The Uruguayan made his first appearance since the Ivanovic incident last week in Liverpool's 2-0 friendly win over Melbourne Victory.
If he signed for Arsenal he's be a bigger idiot than we give him credit for. Signing for a club stuck in neutral for the past 6 years, going nowhere and winning nothing who will drop out of the CL in the next 2 years.
We'll see. Suarez doesn't strike me as the type of person to give up on anything he wants or has decided that's career related.
So while we many not have to sell him, it could still get ugly, and if he go's to court, then would fans really want him back ? that's the decision he has to make now imo, does he go ahead with something he knows will piss off lfc fans to the extent they don't want him back.
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