Luis Suárez

[RedSince1964]

I know it wouldn't happen because it would be crazy, but imagine if we really did keep him and play him in the reserves for the next three years. Fine him when he refused to play. It would send out a message to those mercenary footballers who think they're more important than the clubs they play for. There needs to be a radical review of football. Nobody is more important than the team they play for, the players should show respect for the people paying their wages. If FSG could afford to take the hit on Suarez then I'd love it if they made an example of him.

Spot on bud

[EwarWoo]

I just can't believe hes gone through all this and he's still not yet handed in a transfer request. So desperate to get away but damned if he's giving up his cut.

I really didn't have him down as a mercenery ****er no matter what else he was, shows how much you can tell.....

[rodo]

Only in a profession as chaotic as football could an employee insinuate his boss has told lies and still hope to look as if he has been hard done by.
Luis Suarez shattered any prospect of his wrangle with Liverpool having a satisfactory outcome on Tuesday night when he decided to air his grievances; broken promises were cited, perspective was called for and, ultimately, demands were made. The aim, clearly, was to get Suarez a step closer to Arsenal.
All that was achieved, though, in an interview with two broadsheets newspapers, was that Uruguay striker was made to look desperate, petulant, ungrateful and selfish.

There are ways and means of securing a route out of a football club but the manner in which Suarez has gone about things this summer has been totally the wrong; this episode marks the nadir of a saga that has run and run.
One can only assume what Brendan Rodgers thought when he poured over the rhetoric that Suarez spouted, the accusations that Liverpool 'went back on commitments' and that the manager has not been true to his word.
To put things into context, consider this: Suarez took part briefly in Liverpool's training session at Melwood on Monady afternoon, jogging gingerly alongside Sebastian Coates and Philippe Coutinho as the squad warmed up before taking part In some shuttle sprints. His injured foot would not stand up to the pressure, so Rodgers decided enough was enough and cut Suarez some slack, sending him into the main pavilion at Melwood to be assessed by the medical staff. He was then sent to go for a scan to ascertain the extent of the damage.


Yet as his colleagues took off to go to Norway, where they will play Valerenga this evening, Suarez took aim and unleashed his grievances.
He claims he has told Rodgers all about how he is feeling and why he wants to go. Rodgers has so far refused to reveal anything about 'private conversations'. Tonight at the Ullevaal Stadium, that may change.
Liverpool would be well within their rights to fine Suarez now, as he has failed to show the conduct expected of a club employee.
He has challenged authority and wants things his own way. That he has even felt it necessary to suggest he will get the PFA and Premier League involved – we should not be surprised by this as he sought arbitration to engineer a move from Gronigen to Ajax – is possibly the things which will most startle Liverpool supporters.
Liverpool, do not forget, have come in for criticism like never before in their 121-year history due to Suarez: the staunch defending of him after the racism clash with Patrice Evra, the t-shirts they wore in support of him at Wigan, the backing after the biting of Branislav Ivanovic. It has all left a stain. Does it mean anything to him? The only conclusion can be 'no'.
When he was feted at Steven Gerrard's testimonial on Saturday, there was no acknowledgement to The Kop; the same was true when he took part in an open training session at Anfield on Monday.
After he joined up with Liverpool on their club tour last month, the initial brightness and bonhomie he showed at AAMI Stadium in his first training session, slowly drained away.

The concocted £40,000,001 bid from Arsenal to trigger a clause in his contract messed with his head. Perhaps he thought by now that some of the continent's finest names would be forming an orderly queue for his services; that Juventus would return or Paris St Germain would show an interest or Real Madrid would take him to the Spanish capital.
As it is, he is left with a club that has not won any silverware since 2005 and are not yet guaranteed a place in the Champions League proper next season. Arsenal have acted in a very un-Arsenal like way through this and Suarez is a very un-Arsenal player.
Will he get his wish? Liverpool could easily sit tight, keep him at the club and reintegrate him once he has served the remaining six matches of his ban for biting Ivanovic.

Reality, however, suggests this marriage must end in divorce. And with that, it is worth remembering what Rodgers said in the moments after Suarez sank his teeth into Ivanovic on April 21.
'Players are always replaceable,' Rodgers explained. 'It doesn't matter how good they think they are. Football is how it works. There are wonderful talents here, but we've shown over the years – this club and others – if you lose a player and think you can't replace him, the next one comes along.'
Liverpool will move on: and it has to be without Luis Suarez.



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[EwarWoo]

As it is, he is left with a club that has not won any silverware since 2005 and are not yet guaranteed a place in the Champions League proper next season.

Ouch.

[RedSince1964]

I just can't believe hes gone through all this and he's still not yet handed in a transfer request. So desperate to get away but damned if he's giving up his cut.

I really didn't have him down as a mercenery ****er no matter what else he was, shows how much you can tell.....

I'll be jumping for joy if he puts a transfer request in for sure because that means we won't have to pay the ****er any monies what so ever however, it would be also good if a club such as Real Madrid etc came in with a offer of £50+

[EwarWoo]

Even if RM do come in with an offer of 50m+ he can do one or put in a request and give up his cut. I'd burn the money before giving it to him.

Hold our nerve and if he's this desperate a request will come.

And I really don't care what happens from him or offers for Arsenal, selling to Arsenal would still be a mistake.

He will play next year if hes still here.

I really can't hold onto this belief of always 100% anymore after this, hes a mercenary ****er, but it will be a shop window season for him so he's got no choice but to play his best.

And yes, I now accept hes a cunt. Still think it was wrong to call one of our players that before all the evidence was in but

[Leyton388]

Thanks for your farcical imput and support Leyton mate it's just what we need to hear right now

Nothing farcical about that statement if he continues to improve and we don't progress or regain our CL status he wont be here longer. That's the reality we are in at the minute. After The way Torres left it opened my eyes to the way football and footballers are these days.

The only way we will hold on or attract top players is to get back into the CL. Its a **** situation i know and we shouldn't be in it but we are. We have been out the CL for 5 years and have continuously lost our best players almost every transfer window since.

The only way we will get the type of players we need is to either offer crazy wages which is a none starter under fsg or unearth a talent like coutinho but eventually these players want to play CL football and if we are not in it or show no signs of getting any time soon they will move.

We are where we are thanks to H&G.

[EwarWoo]

We are where we are thanks to H&G.

They had plenty of help from Kenny. FSG massively supported him in both transfer fees and wages. Imagine Rogers with the money Kenny spunked on ****e.

Still have 100% respect for Kenny as an all time legend, but would be neglectful to forget his part. Though I do wish I could.

By the looks of it we may well get back a lot of the money he wasted with Suarez at least. Silver lining and all. It just potentially sets us back a season.

[paulc]

Ball seems to be in the clubs court. If the contract is as watertight as reported then he can sing for his supper and get 0 game time

[Le Chef]

The club should now report Arsenal for the illegal approach - That would curtail muddy the water a bit

[spider-neil]

Regardless of what was promised and let's face it Suarez is a pathological liar the club shouldn't sell unless his true value is met. **** his wishes, we aren't a charity (all the time ).

[EwarWoo]

Regardless of what was promised and let's face it Suarez is a pathological liar the club shouldn't sell unless his true value is met. **** his wishes, we aren't a charity (all the time ).

And not to a rival either at any cost. ****. That.

[Arn]

It's sad that he's gone public but he probably felt he had to because he feels let down by the club. I'm certainly not going to take clubs side on this either because he may well be telling the truth.

There is no point to even try to point out that the club/manager made anything wrong.

Sahin, now on loan at Borussia Dortmund, told Spanish newspaper AS: “Brendan Rodgers wanted me to play as a 10. But I do not play behind the forwards.

“I spoke with him and asked him why I was playing there. It is not my real position. The boss could not answer me... still, I am not sorry about it.

“To play in the red jersey and be in Anfield is something marvellous.

“Maybe if I had not gone there I would not have been able to return to Borussia Dortmund. For that, I am happy.

“But I have left Brendan Rodgers, thanks be to God.”

First Sahin and now Suarez.

Reputation sticks.

Suarez have lied before but so have Rodgers. He lied about Reina, so who knows if Suarez is telling the truth or not.

If Suarez is telling the truth then IMO both Rodgers and Ayre should be sacked. The reason being that the players can't trust them telling the truth or trust a gentlemen's agreement made by them.

A gentlemen agreement made by them would be worth nothing. A gentlemens agreement is of course not written into the contract but it is still a gentlemens agreement. The manager and players must trust each other. It goes both ways.

If he isn't telling the truth then he can **** off. Then he really deserves to be called a Judas etc.

I do wonder if Suarez have any evidence that Rodgers and Ayre made the gentlemen's agreement. Any witnesses etc.

I will wait and see what the PL have to say about it. It may even go to court. After that I will know who to blame. Suarez or Rodgers and Ayre.

[MrMichael]

I'm just imagining him going there, scoring loads of goals, being on his best behaviour, and becoming a media darling. That's just how it would be, considering we have the ****test luck known to mankind!!!

Ha, I don't think that's quite true when it comes to us selling top strikers. Lets look at the evidence...

Fowler - should have been a one-club player, always looked like he just felt wrong playing for anyone else. Suffered the least as leaving was never his choice.
Owen - had to sit in an ITV studio watching his team mates the previous year win the greatest European Cup final of all time. I still laugh at that.
Torres - went from most feared striker in the league to a running joke.

And now Suarez. If anyone deserves the ex-LFC striker jinx it is going to be him. I think I'm going to enjoy watching it happen

All that was achieved, though, in an interview with two broadsheets newspapers, was that Uruguay striker was made to look desperate, petulant, ungrateful and selfish.

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See Marina, he's not becoming a media darling any time soon I reckon

As an aside, that's got to be about the first time I've ever agreed with the Daily Mail, not sure if I should feel dirty

[EwarWoo]

The reason being that the players can't trust them telling the truth or trust a gentlemen's agreement made by them.

How's this for a Gentlemans agreement:

'I'll be here next season, yes,' Suarez said. 'Not only am I playing for Liverpool, I am playing in one of the best leagues in the world.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2312430/Luis-Suarez-staying-Liverpool-striker-rubbishes-Bayern-Munich-switch.html

Don't try and put this back on Ayers and Rogers. That's garbage mate.

Even if he did make an agreement at that time who's to say they didn't make another agreement at the time this interview was done?

It's a multi million dollar corporate world, gone are the days of romance and gentlemans agreements. If its not on paper and signed it's worthless.