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Paul breen turner was on talksport this morning. He's been digging around Spain and there is absolutely no interest at all in Suarez. I think he must be nursing a massively bruised ego at the momentComment
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Hence the reason he is so desparate to go to Arsenal. If Suarez isn't sold to Arsenal then he doesn't get sold as there is zero interest elsewhere.Originally posted by Aj34 View PostComment
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Luis Suarez claims he has a release clause in contract. Liverpool say no. This is trench warfare, football style
There's a picture doing the rounds of Luis Suarez engaging in the kind of supermarket shop you might dash to if you thought the nuclear winter was coming.
Luis Suarez claims he has a release clause in his contract. Liverpool say no. This is becoming trench warfare, football style
By Chris Bascombe
2:44PM BST 07 Aug 2013
His trolley is so full you half expect to see a giddy Dale Winton offering encouragement in the background. Momentarily, the snap offered some optimism to Liverpool supporters Suarez was ready to concede he was stuck on Merseyside for the long haul.
"Look, he's bought long life milk. He's not moving to London anytime soon."
As of Tuesday night's interview pleading for his release from the Anfield contract he extended a year ago, we know the truth. He was indeed mentally preparing to barricade himself into his south Liverpool home for a few days, but only because he dare not risk showing his face down the fruit and vegetable aisle while the sentiments of the incendiary comments given to the Telegraph hang in the Merseyside air.
A common observation about the Suarez affair - which first entered the realms of 'transfer saga' sometime around May - is how tedious it is. We say that, of course, while thirsting and consuming daily information about Suarez's shopping habits, but the perception it's all becoming incredibly repetitive and dull is justifiable on the basis that, for all the time and words devoted to it, remarkably little has actually happened as we enter the fourth month.
Indeed, once the glee and anger (depending on who you support) has subsided, the disheartening outcome of Suarez's latest interview is how little it has actually changed anything.
He thinks he's a prisoner of an uncompassionate regime that promised to free him from his mid-table torment. Liverpool insist if there is one place he can not go, it's to a club that can perpetuate their Champions League exile. Trench warfare football transfer style.
Fortunately, no matter what happens, Suarez tells us he still respects the Liverpool fans and, like Arsene Wenger, hopes for an 'amicable' solution. Of course he does. Footballers must always tiptoe through that minefield which ensures the general theme is 'it's not you, it's certainly not me, it's them' while pointing to the most politically vulnerable staff at a football club: the manager and the boardroom.
Like that last Liverpool striker to leave citing broken promises (see Fernando Torres for more details) it's the previous interviews that undermine him.
On the day he took a nibble of Branislav Ivanovic's biceps, Suarez said this. "The only thing I have in my head is I'm here and have a contract. I'll be here next season, yes. Not only am I playing for Liverpool, I am playing in one of the best leagues in the world."
That, presumably, was the first slip of the tongue on a day an attack of the munchies earned him a 10-match ban. Instead, he's continuing to demand Liverpool acknowledge the true meaning of one of the most talked about clauses since Tony Blair announced he wanted to remove all traces of socialism from the Labour Party constitution.
It is the Keyzer Soze of clauses, which a few people claim to have seen but others say does not actually exist.
Suarez, we have been told for weeks, has been considering taking legal action to prove he does indeed have a £40 million (plus £1) exit clause. He confirmed last night it is an avenue he is exploring, prompting the inevitable question: What are you waiting for then?
For God's sake man, just get on with it. Seriously. This is exactly how the conversation between Suarez and the Anfield hierarchy is going every time this challenge is threatened.
"I'll take legal action you know?"
"Fine, go ahead."
"I mean it. I'm going to do it."
"We heard you. Call your lawyer. Be our guest. You’ll lose."
"This is your last warning. Sell me now or I'm going to see you in court."
"There is no exit clause, Luis. Do what you want."
"I'm going to count to ten now and if you haven't sold me, I'm taking legal action. One... (two week pause)... Two..."
If it does end up at a Premier League tribunal (bet they'll hold a party at HQ if this ends up on their lap) Suarez will be faced with some questions he'd rather not answer.
Queries such as, if you only wanted to stay at Liverpool for one more season 12 months ago, why did you sign a new deal? If you had just two years left now, rather than three, you'd probably be gone already.
And does your suggestion Brendan Rodgers verbally guaranteed to oversee your sale this summer really tally with the fact you signed a contract extension after he was appointed?
The Premier League might also ask why no formal, written transfer request has ever been handed in (like the legal threat, still very much stalling at the 'consideration' stage) and seek confirmation if Suarez's agent has handed confidential details about his contract to Arsenal, contrary to Rule K of the Premier League handbook. Come on Arsene, who told you to bid that extra quid?
Liverpool are fixed in their own position to never sell Suarez to Arsenal and will be in no mood for conciliation today. After the comments by John W. Henry and Rodgers mocking the possibility, it is inconceivable. If their legal position is as watertight as they say - and all we can do is report the supreme confidence of the club it is - Arsenal's suggestion they won't increase their offer implies a high degree of corporate delusion.
So Suarez is left to ponder more realistic options. Hope an overseas club makes a bid in excess of £50 million, preferably in the next five minutes, to make his departure more palatable to everyone at Liverpool, or accept that no matter what he does or says next, he'll be staying where he is for one more season.
Sadly for him, Liverpool would rather leave him behind his self-erected blockade for a year, chomping his way through his mega shop like it's a Serbian limb, than allow him to take 25 Premier League goals to a top four competitor.
Last night's interview may actually be reflective of poor mistreated Luis recognising the genuine possibility he might find himself stranded, nowhere to go because the most significant detail of his contract is the part stating it does not expire until 2016.
If that's the case, they'll have to make a new t-shirt for him. Luis Suarez: Liverpool's rebel without a clause.Last edited by Shaggy; 07-08-13, 03:15 PM.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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I'm starting to hope he goes there and they get knocked out before his ban is upOriginally posted by spider-neil View PostComment
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Respected him as a player but he needs to shut up
Steve Nicol has told talkSPORT he has huge sympathy for Luis Suarez, claiming the striker is an ‘honourable guy’ and has been let down by Liverpool and Brendan Rodgers.
In an interview with two British newspapers this week, Suarez accused the club of reneging on an agreement in his contract that he could leave this summer after the Reds rejected a £40m-plus bid from Arsenal.
Suarez also claimed he could have joined Juventus last year but stayed out of loyalty to Liverpool, and after being assured by Rodgers that he would be allowed to go if the club failed to qualify for the Champions League last season.
“What has been written tells you that Suarez is actually an honourable guy,” said former Liverpool star Nicol, speaking to Mike Graham on Extra Time.
“For all the things he did on the field, he honoured his contract. He played for Liverpool last season and gave everything. It seems to me that it is the other party that is not being honourable.
“I don’t think there is any reason for him to come out and say what he did unless it is right. He seems pretty factual in the words he has spoken.
What has been written tells you that Suarez is actually an honourable guy
— Steve Nicol
"Brendan Rodgers seems to have said, 'if we don’t [qualify for the Champions League] then I'll personally make sure you can go'. That totally changes everything. It makes sense that Suarez hasn't really said an awful lot before.
“You cannot promise anything to your players and not follow through," he continued. "That is a huge problem and Brendan is probably wishing now he had just kept out of it so that eventually it would be a battle between the people upstairs and Suarez’s entourage. That is not the case.
“Brendan is now stuck firmly in the middle of it and, if Brendan has given his word to Suarez, then I don’t think there is any way back for them.”
Liverpool maintain that there is no buy-out clause in Suarez's contract and insist the paperwork only stipulates that the 26-year-old is informed of an offer in excess of £40m.
But Nicol said: “I have never in my life seen a contract that ever stated you can talk to people if you are offered a certain amount. That makes no sense whatsoever.
"The situation Liverpool find themselves in is this is going to arbitration and into the hands of a legal expert who will decide one way or the other who is right and who is wrong.
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@_ChrisBascombe: Struggling for a blog topic today. Opted for little explored subject. Working title 'Suarez: Rebel without a Clause?' http://t.co/TyqwOwhTQ5Comment
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Luis Suarez claims he has a release clause in contract. Liverpool say no. This is trench warfare, football style
There's a picture doing the rounds of Luis Suarez engaging in the kind of supermarket shop you might dash to if you thought the nuclear winter was coming.
Trench warfare: a three-way battle between Liverpool, Suarez amd Arsenal Photo: AFP By Chris Bascombe
2:44PM BST 07 Aug 2013
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His trolley is so full you half expect to see a giddy Dale Winton offering encouragement in the background. Momentarily, the snap offered some optimism to Liverpool supporters Suarez was ready to concede he was stuck on Merseyside for the long haul.
"Look, he's bought long life milk. He's not moving to London anytime soon."
As of Tuesday night's interview pleading for his release from the Anfield contract he extended a year ago, we know the truth. He was indeed mentally preparing to barricade himself into his south Liverpool home for a few days, but only because he dare not risk showing his face down the fruit and vegetable aisle while the sentiments of the incendiary comments given to the Telegraph hang in the Merseyside air.
A common observation about the Suarez affair - which first entered the realms of 'transfer saga' sometime around May - is how tedious it is. We say that, of course, while thirsting and consuming daily information about Suarez's shopping habits, but the perception it's all becoming incredibly repetitive and dull is justifiable on the basis that, for all the time and words devoted to it, remarkably little has actually happened as we enter the fourth month.
Indeed, once the glee and anger (depending on who you support) has subsided, the disheartening outcome of Suarez's latest interview is how little it has actually changed anything.
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He thinks he's a prisoner of an uncompassionate regime that promised to free him from his mid-table torment. Liverpool insist if there is one place he can not go, it's to a club that can perpetuate their Champions League exile. Trench warfare football transfer style.
Fortunately, no matter what happens, Suarez tells us he still respects the Liverpool fans and, like Arsene Wenger, hopes for an 'amicable' solution. Of course he does. Footballers must always tiptoe through that minefield which ensures the general theme is 'it's not you, it's certainly not me, it's them' while pointing to the most politically vulnerable staff at a football club: the manager and the boardroom.
Like that last Liverpool striker to leave citing broken promises (see Fernando Torres for more details) it's the previous interviews that undermine him.
On the day he took a nibble of Branislav Ivanovic's biceps, Suarez said this. "The only thing I have in my head is I'm here and have a contract. I'll be here next season, yes. Not only am I playing for Liverpool, I am playing in one of the best leagues in the world."
That, presumably, was the first slip of the tongue on a day an attack of the munchies earned him a 10-match ban. Instead, he's continuing to demand Liverpool acknowledge the true meaning of one of the most talked about clauses since Tony Blair announced he wanted to remove all traces of socialism from the Labour Party constitution.
It is the Keyzer Soze of clauses, which a few people claim to have seen but others say does not actually exist.
Suarez, we have been told for weeks, has been considering taking legal action to prove he does indeed have a £40 million (plus £1) exit clause. He confirmed last night it is an avenue he is exploring, prompting the inevitable question: What are you waiting for then?
For God's sake man, just get on with it. Seriously. This is exactly how the conversation between Suarez and the Anfield hierarchy is going every time this challenge is threatened.
"I'll take legal action you know?"
"Fine, go ahead."
"I mean it. I'm going to do it."
"We heard you. Call your lawyer. Be our guest. You’ll lose."
"This is your last warning. Sell me now or I'm going to see you in court."
"There is no exit clause, Luis. Do what you want."
"I'm going to count to ten now and if you haven't sold me, I'm taking legal action. One... (two week pause)... Two..."
If it does end up at a Premier League tribunal (bet they'll hold a party at HQ if this ends up on their lap) Suarez will be faced with some questions he'd rather not answer.
Queries such as, if you only wanted to stay at Liverpool for one more season 12 months ago, why did you sign a new deal? If you had just two years left now, rather than three, you'd probably be gone already.
And does your suggestion Brendan Rodgers verbally guaranteed to oversee your sale this summer really tally with the fact you signed a contract extension after he was appointed?
The Premier League might also ask why no formal, written transfer request has ever been handed in (like the legal threat, still very much stalling at the 'consideration' stage) and seek confirmation if Suarez's agent has handed confidential details about his contract to Arsenal, contrary to Rule K of the Premier League handbook. Come on Arsene, who told you to bid that extra quid?
Liverpool are fixed in their own position to never sell Suarez to Arsenal and will be in no mood for conciliation today. After the comments by John W. Henry and Rodgers mocking the possibility, it is inconceivable. If their legal position is as watertight as they say - and all we can do is report the supreme confidence of the club it is - Arsenal's suggestion they won't increase their offer implies a high degree of corporate delusion.
So Suarez is left to ponder more realistic options. Hope an overseas club makes a bid in excess of £50 million, preferably in the next five minutes, to make his departure more palatable to everyone at Liverpool, or accept that no matter what he does or says next, he'll be staying where he is for one more season.
Sadly for him, Liverpool would rather leave him behind his self-erected blockade for a year, chomping his way through his mega shop like it's a Serbian limb, than allow him to take 25 Premier League goals to a top four competitor.
Last night's interview may actually be reflective of poor mistreated Luis recognising the genuine possibility he might find himself stranded, nowhere to go because the most significant detail of his contract is the part stating it does not expire until 2016.
If that's the case, they'll have to make a new t-shirt for him. Luis Suarez: Liverpool's rebel without a clause.Comment
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Bascombe has nailed it. It probably includes a lot of what the club is thinking. I believe he is pretty close to Ayre and gets the 'scoops'Comment
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Feel kind of the same way as Dom at the moment. It's not as fun these days and the childhood wonder that accompanied football for me is wearing off fast. It's also hard to justify following it when it's become so corrupt. It's not even fun to talk to other fans. Most have no concept of history or the generations of fans who have come before them. I constantly have to explain why the **** I support Liverpool anyway. Very deflating. Is it all worth it? It's just a sport--one with few remaining redeeming qualities at that.Comment
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Seems like we are supremely confident of the contract being watertight from that piece.Comment
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Interesting how it indicates that they'd rather let him rot for a year than sell him to Arsenal. Bascombe has been pretty much saying this all summer (the bit on the clause)Originally posted by fah-q View PostComment
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Really starting to get completely disillusioned with football is worth all the hassle enjoy watching games but things like this piss me off
In some ways I feel we know too much in terms of transfers etc, anyway stay or go it is about the club not the players
Can't wait to see Countinho play this season
YNWA"All I'll ever do is all I've ever done in any job, and that's promise to fight for my life for the supporters and the people of the city"Comment
love it!
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