Are we really looking at so many average players?

[Mattshark]

Of course you can. Its always about picking the right mix of players, not the best money can buy.

Not really.

Doesn't really matter that much if the players aren't good enough.

[RichC]

Of course you can. Its always about picking the right mix of players, not the best money can buy.

Is the correct answer!

All about building a side and a squad to play to your strengths, some players may not be the most fashionable names out there but then that shouldn't be a reason to buy players anyway!

[CJ]

to put it a different way

what would peoples reactions be to these players if bodge was still here and we were chasing them.

i would imagine average would be a word used a lot more than it currently is.

[Mattshark]

Is the correct answer!

All about building a side and a squad to play to your strengths, some players may not be the most fashionable names out there but then that shouldn't be a reason to buy players anyway!

Yes, it is, that doesn't mean players who are not good enough will do anything.


And a comparison to over 2 decades ago is still irrelevant. Football has changed and the quality of the teams has changed.

[RichC]

Yes, it is, that doesn't mean players who are not good enough will do anything.


And a comparison to over 2 decades ago is still irrelevant. Football has changed and the quality of the teams has changed.

where do you think the side of 86-87 or 89-90 would have finished last season?

[Mattshark]

where do you think the side of 86-87 or 89-90 would have finished last season?

I don't believe either would have won the league.

[Fosterbloke]

And a comparison to over 2 decades ago is still irrelevant. Football has changed and the quality of the teams has changed.

That doesn't make sense. Has the English language changed so much in the past two decades that "not considered World Class" meant something different then and so cannot be used now?

If not then I suggest you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

[CJ]

i think that not having european qualification means whilst that team were very good its difficult to asses how they would have been against the very best of the time.

Another thing we now have some of the best foreign talent in this country (certainly true up until two years ago)

are we just building for the prem these days then and accepting we would have to build a much better team to win the CL

[Neil Young]

to put it a different way

what would peoples reactions be to these players if bodge was still here and we were chasing them.

i would imagine average would be a word used a lot more than it currently is.

But the probable difference in response is down to the fact that most of us trust Dalglish's judgement and we didn't trust Bronto's. And we were quite right too given their track records at top, top clubs.

[CJ]

But the probable difference in response is down to the fact that most of us trust Dalglish's judgement and we didn't trust Bronto's. And we were quite right too given their track records at top, top clubs.

so the response would have nothing to do with the actual ability of the players

sort of proves the point i am making

[Neil Young]

In fact, it's not just about judgement of players. There's a lot more belief in Dalglish's desire and ability to introduce a successful and attractive pattern of play. There's a lot more faith in Steve Clarke than Mike 'Who' Kelly.

So if Dalglish wants a player I'm a lot more prepared to believe it than I would if Hodgson chose him.

Besides Hodgson bought utter, utter sh*t. Dalglish hasn't so far and as far as I can see all the players we're linked with at the moment are better than the ones the Hodgersaur bought.

[Neil Young]

so the response would have nothing to do with the actual ability of the players

sort of proves the point i am making

No it doesn't. The point you're making is so far removed from reality it could have gone to Eton.

[CJ]

No it doesn't. The point you're making is so far removed from reality it could have gone to Eton.

yes it does.

you dont like to admit it though, thats something a bit different

[Neil Young]

No it doesn't. You're assuming we'd be after the same players if Hodger was in charge and there's no reason to believe that.

And even if we accept that assumption, there is still the argument that Hodgson dragged the good players down to his and his signings' level, whereas Dalglish has shown he's able to get more out of the good ones and also the previously underrated ones (like Spearing for instance).

So it's just rather silly really.

[CJ]

No it doesn't. You're assuming we'd be after the same players if Hodger was in charge and there's no reason to believe that.

And even if we accept that assumption, there is still the argument that Hodgson dragged the good players down to his and his signings' level, whereas Dalglish has shown he's able to get more out of the good ones and also the previously underrated ones (like Spearing for instance).

So it's just rather silly really.

i am not assuming we would be in for the same players if bodge were in charge. i am saying that average players are average players no matter who is in for them.

and isnt it great that we are after some who are not good enough to get in that great brilliant england team i have been laughing at on itv just now.