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    Originally posted by kris90210 View Post
    Fair enough, but you get my point. I'm sure you can come up with some examples of dangerous challenges without any malice involved.

    Yeah, it used to be extremely rough - I watched an old match on ITV from the mid 80's and some of the challenges were absolutely brutal. But football just isn't like that anymore. Jay knows the rules - he's not some ancient player struggling to adapt to this 'over-zealous officiating' - it's pretty much been this way for as long as he's been playing.
    Even by todays "standard" I didnt think it was a clear red
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      Originally posted by kris90210 View Post
      Fair enough, but you get my point. I'm sure you can come up with some examples of dangerous challenges without any malice involved.

      Yeah, it used to be extremely rough - I watched an old match on ITV from the mid 80's and some of the challenges were absolutely brutal. But football just isn't like that anymore. Jay knows the rules - he's not some ancient player struggling to adapt to this 'over-zealous officiating' - it's pretty much been this way for as long as he's been playing.
      If that tackle happened 10 times over a weekend, I don't think half would result in red cards. It's not a matter of once being able to tackle like that but now you can't, it wasn't a red card offence on 5/12/2011 imo.
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        Originally posted by kris90210 View Post
        I was surprised the Fulham players didn't make more of a deal of it. If the exact same thing happened to one of our players at Anfield, the team would have been all over it and you know it.
        A group of players dont tend to get worked up over a fair, ball winning challenge so I dont agree.

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          When it happened, it looked like a great challenge but it's obvious from those gifs that there was a dangerous follow through (the guys ankle could've snapped) and it's a red, no doubt.

          Disappointed in Spearing tbh. Could've won that ball without being so reckless on the follow through.

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            Originally posted by Maxiedge View Post
            When it happened, it looked like a great challenge but it's obvious from those gifs that there was a dangerous follow through (the guys ankle could've snapped) and it's a red, no doubt.
            This logic is ridiculous, his ankle could snap in any challenge!

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              He couldn't have got there first and not followed through in some way. The momentum of the two players meant a clash of some sort was inevitable.
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                Yeah but it's more likely to snap in a challenge like that.

                Trust me, if you were on the end of that, you wouldn't be so sympathetic towards Jay.

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                  Which is of course irrelevant.
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                    Why is it irrelevant?

                    If someone came into my ankle like that I would be thinking straight red and also thank **** it's still in one piece.

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                      Originally posted by Chris View Post
                      A group of players dont tend to get worked up over a fair, ball winning challenge so I dont agree.
                      Mate, you see a group of players going wild over anything that can potentially swing a game in their favour. Players are always looking to gain an advantage. I found the behaviour of the Fulham players to be very odd. I think most teams would have reacted very strongly to it. Maybe it's because the ref produced the red almost instantly. I thought it was weird anyway.

                      Anyway, I've had my say on this. It was a reckless, dangerous challenge, and Spearing can have no complaints. I'm out.
                      K ris90210

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                        Originally posted by Lecter View Post


                        The thing is we want consistency and the referee was far from that (well he was consistantly ****ing ****)

                        IF that was a red card (and the ref is using the letter of the law) then Dempsey should have gone as well for puting his head in Bellamy's face

                        How the hell Bellamy could get a yellow card (the same as Dempseys) for his part in those handbags I'll never know

                        Also how Senderos can be booked for the Adam tackle yet get off with the Carroll rugby tackle is beyond belief

                        That is the worst refereeing performance I have seen for sometime (and that is saying something!!!))
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                          Originally posted by Lecter View Post


                          The thing is we want consistency and the referee was far from that (well he was consistantly ****ing ****)

                          IF that was a red card (and the ref is using the letter of the law) then Dempsey should have gone as well for puting his head in Bellamy's face

                          How the hell Bellamy could get a yellow card (the same as Dempseys) for his part in those handbags I'll never know

                          Also how Senderos can be booked for the Adam tackle yet get off with the Carroll rugby tackle is beyond belief

                          That is the worst refereeing performance I have seen for sometime (and that is saying something!!!))
                          Totally agree with this, the Ref was SKY TV starstruck & awful; so many incorrect decisions. Senderos should have been sent off, Dempsey sent off, Spearing Yellow, Suarez penalty or at the very least obstruction & on & on.
                          Last edited by S-RED; 06-12-11, 04:27 PM.

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                            Originally posted by S-RED View Post
                            Totally agree with this, the Ref was SKY TV starstruck & awful; so many incorrect decisions. Senderos should have been sent off, Dempsey, sent off, Separing Yellow, Suarez Penatly or at the very least obstruction.
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                              Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                              It's nonsense that you think that that game was impossible to win because of the ref. Did the ref score their winning goal too?
                              No he didnt. But earlier in the match he should have redcarded the guy who did score the goal
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                                Even Neville thought it was a harsh sending off. The slowmo shows Jay totally concentrating on the ball and winning it before the other guy even comes into it
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