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    #46
    Originally posted by Helios Creed View Post
    about 40%.


    If we score more away from home, apart from pure bad luck and inspired goal keeping, doesn't that mean we are better on the counter than when teams sit back and we have to break them down?
    We are but to tbh I'm not really allowed.

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    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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      #47
      Originally posted by Lecter View Post
      I see 2 problems with Suarez

      IMO he completely lacks any composure in front of goal, he almost always tries to **** the ball as hard as he can, when often a placed finish / pass the ball into the net would be better served

      I think hes too selflish - maybe thats because of the symptoms you mention above but I'm not sure
      The question for me is whether he has previously performed to a different standard in this respect for Uruguay or Ajax. I seem to remember that there are generally less chances in international football than in the PL and his record for Uruguay suggests he must be capable of better.
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        #48
        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
        Is any of this statistically significant?


        Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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          #49

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          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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            #50
            Originally posted by dww View Post
            The question for me is whether he has previously performed to a different standard in this respect for Uruguay or Ajax. I seem to remember that there are generally less chances in international football than in the PL and his record for Uruguay suggests he must be capable of better.
            But some players do well in other countries/internationally but cant transfer that goalscoring form to the Premier League

            Kezman & Kuyt spring to mind

            I dont know why Suarez's finishing is off but it is

            IMO its not down to teammates or the quality of chances

            Hes had some really easy chances that with a little bit more composure he could have buried
            Last edited by Lecter; 03-01-12, 03:30 PM.
            Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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              #51
              Originally posted by Lecter View Post
              But some players do well in other countries/internationally but cant transfer that goalscoring form to the Premier League

              Kezman & Kuyt spring to mind

              I dont know why Suarez's finishing is off but it is

              IMO its not down to teammates or the quality of chances

              Hes had some really easy chances that with a little bit more composure he could have buried
              Sure, but the question is whether what we see is a limitation or due to factors around the way we play or the environment in which he is playing.

              I don't think that Kuyt is a useful comparator on this actually as his scoring record for the Dutch national team (and for us to a lesser degree) has changed as he has been used in different ways/roles. Kezman more so but his long term record post Chelsea suggests that something (confidence perhaps) was ruined by factors at Chelsea.
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                #52
                Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                And you can turn that around and say that, without a huge chunk of fortune, they wouldnt have scored.

                You cant criticise us for relying on fortune to score goals, whilst ignoring the fact that the single goal we shipped was largely down to the same reason.
                I can actually because it's irrelevant to this topic.

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                  #53
                  Of course it's relevant. If we're not conceding, then the amount we need to score is obviously lower.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                    I see 2 problems with Suarez

                    IMO he completely lacks any composure in front of goal, he almost always tries to **** the ball as hard as he can, when often a placed finish / pass the ball into the net would be better served

                    I think hes too selflish - maybe thats because of the symptoms you mention above but I'm not sure

                    100% agree with you. He is too selfish (esp for someone who misses so much) - I think possibly he gets a bit desperate if we have not scored early and starts trying too hard.

                    It's a tough one, sometimes his quick thinking / passes / shots can help us but at other times I sit there wishing he would calm down a bit and take a little more time.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                      Of course it's relevant. If we're not conceding, then the amount we need to score is obviously lower.
                      Er, how is it relevant to a thread about why we struggle to score?

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                        #56
                        It's relevant to the issue of how frequently we score, or 'struggle' to score.

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                          #57
                          Craig, you may struggle to score but some of us are in a rich vein of form.
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                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                            Craig, you may struggle to score but some of us are in a rich vein of form.
                            Brings a whole new meaning to "like a dog with two dicks"
                            Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                              Craig, you may struggle to score but some of us are in a rich vein of form.
                              You would struggle to score in a brothel

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                                Brings a whole new meaning to "like a dog with two dicks"


                                Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                                You would struggle to score in a brothel
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                                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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