Liverpool Stoke post game waking up thread

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4 wins and 7 draws from 11 home games

[loki]

We are Aston Villa.

We bring in Andy Caroll and Stewie bleaming Downing and expect to be challengers??

Do you know who would line up like we did today with Kuyt on top? Aston Villa or Stoke thats who. Reality check we are nowhere near the top 4. We are lucky to finish sixth.

Love KK but this is not working for us and Commolli needs to go!! Bring in Rijkaard and let's at least have some fun

[Daniel 7]

This really isn't working out. Next season we need to bring back Rafa.

x2

As much as I admire, respect and love him for coming back and lifting us out of the Roy Hodgson depression, I almost wish it had stayed as that, so we could look back fondly on what he did for us when we all needed it most as fans.

The vision of the team is muddled, the syle of play outdated and unimaginative. The signings have been catastrophic - Carroll and Downing are amongst the worst value signings made in the history of football.

We aren't entertaining, we aren't threatening, we aren't effective at anything. We have bought players for roles they just don't seem to be able to perform. Sure, we're a few points off and but for a few hit crossbars and luck going our way, we might be challenging for fourth - but really, should that be the limit of out ambitions?

Maybe I'm venting, but 7 draws at home is what did for previous managers, and Roy's home record was comparable, if not slightly better.

I don't want to see the post match interview, because if I hear how Kenny's pleased with the efforts of the teammagain, I fear my head might well pop.

[Gibbo]

Where do we go from here? Striker is a priority now surely?

[McDermotX]

Well, we've wasted a lot of money on **** players. Wonder how that affects us as a business...

I guess the easiest question a manager should ask themselves is (and I admit its too simplistic)..........given the opportunity, would Kenny spend the money on Downing and Carroll tomorrow ?

[Mostar]

****ing woeful attacking performance from us yet again. Someone said in the build up that the line up had 0-0 written all over it, and I thought at the time he was spot on.

If this performance doesn't persuade Kenny we need attacking reinforcements then nothing will.

I'm starting to despise watching Carroll play football. The amount of time he spend on the floor moaning is no joke. He's tripping himself up, getting in the way of shots, falling over. He needs a ****ing good talking to.

We've got the makings of a good team, but attacking wise we are just woeful. Sort it out Kenny for ****s sake. This is depressing ****.

He has no sense of balance whatsoever, which I mentioned before about him.

Every challenge, even a little nudge, in or outside box leads to him being on the ground.

Terrible to watch.

[truefan999]

Honest question.. Can you see the owners giving us any more money in the style of the summer? I'd be hesitant to considering what's gone on, they must have been expecting, like us, much, much better.

How much money have they given us?

I think that their nett spend is not that great. I am not moaning at that. If we just spend our profit each year I will be happy.

So we will have about £40m plus sales to spend in the summer. So £41m if we sell Andy Carroll

[Gibbo]

I wonder why Carroll goes down easily, He should be a ****ing bettering ram.

Bet if that was a street fight he wouldn't look like Bambi on ice.

[kris90210]

And another thing, what the **** is going on Enrique and Johnson's crosses? They bot had good games, but their delivery is extremely poor. Johnson used to be much, much better. What the **** are these players practicing in training??

Same with corners.

[Exiled_red]

I don't see why Carroll is getting stick again. I don't think he did anything wrong, he just didn't get service.

[Mostar]

Where do we go from here? Striker is a priority now surely?

a striker, a DM and AM/Winger but have to be good signings.

This today was pathetic and all (Skrtel and GJ excluded) our players should be ashamed of that performance.

[Gibbo]

I think Johnson was out best player today but I agree Kris. Crossing from everyone is poor. Even Enriques cross for Kuyt's chance hit the first man.

[red g]

Honest question.. Can you see the owners giving us any more money in the style of the summer? I'd be hesitant to considering what's gone on, they must have been expecting, like us, much, much better.

havent heard anyhting from henry in a long long time....

[BootRoom]

Somebody called Carroll "the white Heskey" in the match thread, but at least Heskey had the treat of pace, and was more than useful in the treble year. With Carroll we are reduced to lumping it in the box and hoping for a pen through some sort of brawl with opposing defenders. It's pub football stuff. Terrible.

[Suarez]

Where do we go from here? Striker is a priority now surely?

we've spent £55m on 2 new strikers, I'd imagine Henry would say "**** off" if Kenny approached him with that request.