Liverpool Stoke post game waking up thread

[Mostar]

Our passing and style of play is a lot better now; we just need to be more adventurous in pushing more men forward. And not load the team with defenders.

Yes our passing is better this year compared to the first part of the season before but I disagree that we being more adventurous would resolve those problems.

We tried that many times including today especially in the second half but we are not nearly good enough to win these tight difficult types of matches even when we push forward.

To me that issue is lack of quality in few areas and I think we'll see inconstancies in terms of results and performances to continue until we address that on permanent basis.

[red g]

Has Adam's form dropped? I didn't ever think he was doing particularly well in the first place. He's not been great, but not dog**** either.

adam delivered a few balls of real quality today when the play was fluid and his dead balls have been ****e all season !!

[G]

Utterly predictable result once that line up and formation was sent out against the mighty Stoke at home.

[little dave hedgehog]

Has Adam's form dropped? I didn't ever think he was doing particularly well in the first place. He's not been great, but not dog**** either.

there were a few games on the trot where he looked like coming into his own, but he's regressed since then. probably been at least 2 months.

[Gibbo]

Has Adam's form dropped? I didn't ever think he was doing particularly well in the first place. He's not been great, but not dog**** either.

I think it has, he looks a little worn out.

Played some better passes today though which was encouraging to see.

[Baracus]

i can guarantee dalglish knew who enrique was

Probably saw him at a Boyzone Concert. Wrong enrique thou.

[McDermotX]

We lined up with three centre-backs to occupy Crouch, even Walters went wide right when they looked to attack meaning Skrtel and Coates took it in turns to bring the ball out of defence.

Surely, the extra (extra) centre back was not needed and when we looked to bring Carroll on, we should have left Downing on to provide (hopefully) some sort of service for Carroll and taken off a defender (Carragher)?

There was no need for three centrebacks. Totally unfathomable.

It was amateurish in many ways.........particularly the way the game progressed as expected.

[Daniel 7]

Adam made two of the best crossfield passes I have seen him do today, so I don't think its a problem with Adam.

[Muddled]

Looking at the positives, I thought Gerrard and Henderson linked up well together in the middle of the park. To a lesser extent, Adam tried to provide some drive and played some great diagnol balls, but does look 'heavy' on the ball some times.

[red g]

Yes our passing is better this year compared to the first part of the season before but I disagree that we being more adventurous would resolve those problems.

We tried that many times including today especially in the second half but we are not nearly good enough to win these tight difficult types of matches.

To me that issue is lack of quality in few areas and I think we'll see inconstancies in terms of results and performances to continue until we address that on permanent basis.

Kennys summer signings have taken us a huge step backwards. I really like Enrique and Henderson but the fact is when Kenny took over and we used the youngsters we were good to watch and played some lovely pass and move stuff.

[Exiled_red]

We obviously have problems creating things against teams that come to get men behind the ball and defend. For me in these games we need to come from the start playing at a high tempo, play the ball about quickly, one and two touch passing, move players around, run off the ball and play quick little one-twos to create space. For me we don't do this anywhere near often enough, and it was evident today.

[Bender]

well i say it ....dalglish will imo get one more season and not alot of money to show real progress if we don't get champions league by the end of next season the owners will look for a new manager...... annoying thing is we were within touching distance of top 3 had we converted our many chances this season

[BootRoom]

Im not sure I agree with that necessarily. Today was far worse than most games under Rafa, even when he was getting stick for being too defensive. No imagination, no penetration, no pace.

We have been better in other games this season but I dont think we're really that much more attacking than we were under Rafa. We're still set up to defend well and hold possession. We probably play with a bit more width but that's a question of style rather than philosophy I think.

Technically all the players look much more fluent under Kenny, and I think that's down to the training. Under Rafa we were far more regimented, we just had players like Gerrard and Torres that could do a bit of magic and pull the some goals out of the hat for us. No way I'd want to go back to the Rafa style of play.

[red g]

well i say it ....dalglish will imo get one more season and not alot of money to show real progress if we don't get champions league by the end of next season the owners will look for a new manager...... annoying thing is we were within touching distance of top 3 had we converted our many chances this season

not sure he will, we need to be improving and at this present moment we are stagnating.

We look turgid, nothing that a few players wont solve though.

[McDermotX]

We obviously have problems creating things against teams that come to get men behind the ball and defend. For me in these games we need to come from the start playing at a high tempo, play the ball about quickly, one and two touch passing, move players around, run off the ball and play quick little one-twos to create space. For me we don't do this anywhere near often enough, and it was evident today.

and don't they ****ing know it as well.