Liverpool v Arsenal Post-Match Thread

[Phil_Neal]

**** sake Kenny, surely everyone knows that Bellamy is by far our best striker? Whats hard to understand about that

He's a one of the few match winners we actually have and he's sat on the bench

Finally, someone else bar me making Kenny accountable. All I have seen on here for 12 months is Comolli this, FSG that, blame the players, blame the transfers as they bought themselves.

But, everyone is agreeing the transfers have been poor, we've wasted a lot of money, we aren't playing well game in game out, subs are poor, players are underperforming etc...

...that is mainly the manager's fault I'm afraid.

[badpiggy]

Without labouring the point, for any of us who think Carroll will come good, the only way for him to come good is for him to do the things that Van Persie does - and he doesn't have a single attribute that suggests he will ever do this. Van Persie is what a £35M player looks like and he's the sort of striker a team with League ambitions is supposed to have. Carroll is not to blame for today but it says it all when your most expensive player ever is only thrown pointlessly on at the death to salvage a draw from a must win game.

And I ****in detest the sight of us chasing a game in the last few minutes without having the ball - what the **** sort of midfield lets this happen?

I believe in Henderson btw. He'll be excellent.

[Mattshark]

Henderson was very good today, wrong player to shoot at. Adam however...

Doesn't offer enough going forward.

[cream]

Carra should never play again.

[BobTheCharmer]

It's not just about today, we are still miles of the pace and have been pretty average all season. It's a game like this that if we won might have given us a false lift but deep down I think we all know we are far from CL quality at the moment and if you don't, you are deluded.

I am realistic.

its games like today that give me hope. we're miles off the top 2/3 maybe but we aren't miles away from arsenal. anything but. there'll never be a season like this again, we'll win twice as many home games next year and play a lot worse. poor finishing, bad luck and some poor decisions all round have contributed. We must find another Torres/Rooney/Van Persie. the type that wins you games on their own.

[Imy]

does anyone else think kenny put an awful team on the pitch?

Injuries didn't help:

Agger>>>Carra
Johnson>Kelly
Gerrard>Adam

[Suarez]

you point is what? you watched the game and we dominated. he can't put the ball in the net for them.

We could all see that whilst we were dominating we weren't going to score with this lot. Their defence was all over the place yet Kenny left our quickest and arguably best attacker on the bloody bench until the 88th minute, and brings him on for Downing. Bellamy would've had a field day with this lot had they been given 30 minutes or so.

This squad of players and in particular the majority of ones Dalglish has brought in have a complete lack of bottle in front of goal and are bloody useless making the final cutting pass.

[Phil_Neal]

Without labouring the point, for any of us who think Carroll will come good, the only way for him to come good is for him to do the things that Van Persie does - and he doesn't have a single attribute that suggests he will ever do this. Van Persie is what a £35M player looks like and he's the sort of striker a team with League ambitions is supposed to have. Carroll is not to blame for today but it says it all when your most expensive player ever is only thrown pointlessly on at the death to salvage a draw from a must win game.

And I ****in detest the sight of us chasing a game in the last few minutes without having the ball - what the **** sort of midfield lets this happen?

I believe in Henderson btw. He'll be excellent.

Good post.

[little dave hedgehog]

Slit your wrists mate.

We're not that far away despite our league position and a league cup is still better than nothing.

yeah it's better than nothing, but i would trade those 4 or 5 wins it took to get there for as many premiership wins. i'd even trade them for slightly fewer league wins. winning that trophy was a chance for us to start getting stronger in our resolve, but we've gone straight out and bottled another home game. i'm certainly not suicidal but i would trade almost anything to be consistently good in the league. i wanted us to win the trophy to rally the troops. if that doesn't happen, then it was a pretty pointless exercise. league points are the most important thing this season, and we've just watched them slip through our fingers at anfield all season long. i can't put up with it for another year, i'll have no nails left.

[BobTheCharmer]

The problem is not really the price but that he is good squad player but he shouldn't be playing week in and week out.

He is just not good enough for the starting job.

but he's proved value at 8m, yes?

[Fredo]

Without labouring the point, for any of us who think Carroll will come good, the only way for him to come good is for him to do the things that Van Persie does - and he doesn't have a single attribute that suggests he will ever do this. Van Persie is what a £35M player looks like and he's the sort of striker a team with League ambitions is supposed to have. Carroll is not to blame for today but it says it all when your most expensive player ever is only thrown pointlessly on at the death to salvage a draw from a must win game.

And I ****in detest the sight of us chasing a game in the last few minutes without having the ball - what the **** sort of midfield lets this happen?

I believe in Henderson btw. He'll be excellent.

Our midfield dominated theirs all game, it's a bit harsh that. Their goal killed us, came out of the ****ing blue.

[Muddled]

We just need to carry on building. Why "cut our losses"? Are these players a liability to our team? Buy more quality players and keep them to form the basis of a good squad.

+1.

We cut our losses and we'll lambast the players that come in to replace them.

They'll need a year to settle in and we'll show little patience again.

We *need* to look at the bigger picture here. We have a new manager, under new owners with new players; we can't expect them to all suddenly pull in the same direction, all whilst understanding a new set-up.

[Mostar]

Carra should never play again.

In hindsight yes but I don't think you would find any manager that would have picked Coates over him.

After this game things will change as we were almost definite out of CL race and I wouldn't be surprised to see Coates start next week.

[Baracus]

28/02/11

6 Position Played 28 Points 39

03/03/12

7 Position Played 26 Points 39

One Cup
One 1/4 Final


Still better then last year...Just

[Kenneth]

Carroll
Henderson
Downing
Adam
Carra

I'd get rid of them all in the summer just cut our loses and rebuild again.

if we can find replacements who want to join us, which is a big ask, I agree. Would probably keep Jordan but we don't need the others.