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  • Roanmore
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    No Illori in Villa squad for City game.

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  • Chris
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    Sterling defo divided opinion, plenty of clowns on here were saying he wouldnt even make it as a premier league player, is worse than Moses etc etc after Hull away!

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  • dww
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    There were loads of Sterling doubters. I also remember lots of mixed reports on Ibe at first when he went to Derby. I've not seen nearly enough of Ojo to have a valid opinion but he does seem to get a decent number of goals and assists.
    Last edited by dww; 08-11-15, 02:21 PM.

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  • BigChief
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    Originally posted by dww View Post
    I think in recent years with the likes of Sterling and Ibe we have seen how divided peoples opinions can be of young, dynamic attacking players when it isn't quite coming off for them. Not sure I would want to put much trust in such comments about him on forums.
    Agreed but Sterling never divided opinion and Derby fans knew what Ibe was bringing to the table. Ojo I'm afraid is as good as our own Sinclair, i.e. youngsters we over rate but really are not in Sterling/Ibe class. Or anywhere near if I'm honest.

    Kent and Wilson are the ones to really watch. And Wilson isn't pulling up any trees at the moment for whatever reason.

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  • dww
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    Originally posted by BigChief View Post
    They only comment I could find on forums was that Howson and Wisdom did a solid job down the side that Montero plays. That can't be bad.

    Wolves forums absolutely ripping into Ojo, calling him a diver and calls to **** him back off to Liverpool.
    I think in recent years with the likes of Sterling and Ibe we have seen how divided peoples opinions can be of young, dynamic attacking players when it isn't quite coming off for them. Not sure I would want to put much trust in such comments about him on forums.

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  • Exiled_red
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    Originally posted by dww View Post
    If I was in charge of the FA, I would probably have a flat out bribe (ideally paid for from TV money higher up the pyramid. I would have done it at the point of renegotiating the compensation for young players being transferred but that ship has sailed). A payment made for playing X under 21 players for Y minutes. Most clubs have financial difficulties and would probably find it hard to resist complying. Self interest is usually the only way. You could also give bonuses for the number of England youth internationals provided I suppose.

    I'd also couple that with a limit on the number of substitutes over 21 on the bench.

    As a club I suspect there is nothing we can do. We could try to pay people to play our loanees but managers would probably resent interference in terms of being forced into selecting particular players.
    That sounds a reasonable idea, I guess the problem comes when you start linking it to a particular nationality, I guess doing it like the homegrown quota in the PL/CL probably works as well as presumably in the lower leagues the vast majority of players would qualify for UK and Ireland national sides.

    Originally posted by Venton View Post
    That's not bad. Or you could say that we'll pay a percentage of wages according to their percentage of playing time. If they play 100% of matches we pay all the wages, and if they play 0% then the loanee team pay all of their wages for that week etc.
    That's a good idea, it is something we can do regardless of anything / anyone else.

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  • redmike65
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    Originally posted by BigChief View Post
    They only comment I could find on forums was that Howson and Wisdom did a solid job down the side that Montero plays. That can't be bad.

    Wolves forums absolutely ripping into Ojo, calling him a diver and calls to **** him back off to Liverpool.
    Ojo splits opinion usually depending on whether he starts or not - he is a poor first half player but effective coming on for the last 20 mins.

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  • RedReet
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    Norwich record with Wisdom starting is very good. A lot is obviously coincidence, but you'd think he at least deserves a decent chance considering.

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  • BigChief
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    They only comment I could find on forums was that Howson and Wisdom did a solid job down the side that Montero plays. That can't be bad.

    Wolves forums absolutely ripping into Ojo, calling him a diver and calls to **** him back off to Liverpool.

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  • Fosterbloke
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    Originally posted by dww View Post
    Wisdom starting for Norwich today

    How did he do?

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  • dww
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    Wisdom starting for Norwich today

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  • Fivex
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    Interesting thought, sounds plausible.

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  • dww
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    That sort of thing seems like the sort of imaginative solution that could work.

    Speaking of which (imagination that is), based on a throw away comment by the commentator on 5Live I have come up with this speculation:
    • Ian Ayre used to work at Huddersfield
    • Huddersfield just appointed Klopp associate David Wagner
    • Did we have a hand in that in order to help give us a development pathway with trusted coaching?

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  • Venton
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    Originally posted by dww View Post
    If I was in charge of the FA, I would probably have a flat out bribe (ideally paid for from TV money higher up the pyramid. I would have done it at the point of renegotiating the compensation for young players being transferred but that ship has sailed). A payment made for playing X under 21 players for Y minutes. Most clubs have financial difficulties and would probably find it hard to resist complying. Self interest is usually the only way. You could also give bonuses for the number of England youth internationals provided I suppose.

    I'd also couple that with a limit on the number of substitutes over 21 on the bench.

    As a club I suspect there is nothing we can do. We could try to pay people to play our loanees but managers would probably resent interference in terms of being forced into selecting particular players.
    That's not bad. Or you could say that we'll pay a percentage of wages according to their percentage of playing time. If they play 100% of matches we pay all the wages, and if they play 0% then the loanee team pay all of their wages for that week etc.

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  • dww
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    Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
    How would you do that?
    If I was in charge of the FA, I would probably have a flat out bribe (ideally paid for from TV money higher up the pyramid. I would have done it at the point of renegotiating the compensation for young players being transferred but that ship has sailed). A payment made for playing X under 21 players for Y minutes. Most clubs have financial difficulties and would probably find it hard to resist complying. Self interest is usually the only way. You could also give bonuses for the number of England youth internationals provided I suppose.

    I'd also couple that with a limit on the number of substitutes over 21 on the bench.

    As a club I suspect there is nothing we can do. We could try to pay people to play our loanees but managers would probably resent interference in terms of being forced into selecting particular players.

    Leave a comment:

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