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well the shortlist is getting shorter by the day without interviews even taking place...
If we're left with Martinez and AVB, after what I've been hearing about AVB I'll be hoping for Roberto even though I don't think he's fit to manage the club. Looking at it, AVB won the league with Porto (which they'd won 4 out of the previous 5 seasons so not really a high flying recommendation), was only there a year, Lampard says he didn't instil confidence in any of the players at all (which is a massive must for us as we need someone who can make the players think they're actually better than they are, and he treated everyone like ****e (according to the guy at The Times. LFC has always been a close knit club, Rafa and Kenny knew the names of everyone, if AVB strolls in and starts treating all the lower staff like crap its just not the LFC way. He seems to be a right arrogant up himself ****er to me, I mean, advising the players to run over and celebrate with him
So, I don't want AVB, even before all this came to light, I thought it was a massive risk, but this all just makes the risk far bigger. Everyone else is ruling themselves out, they're not approaching Rafa and it seems only Martinez is left...great.
Massive assumptions being made, fair enough if thats your opinion but i highly doubt its backed up well. Chelsea is a club that has been rumoured to have had senior players go behind their managers backs and whinge straight to the owner on numerous previous occasions with other managers.
Nobody will know what really went down behind the scenes at Chelsea during AVB's reign for years, so its best to stop speculating...the facts are it did not work out but whether it was because of "his man management style" (like alot of people seem to subscribe to) or because the senior players ego's at the club were too big we can't know.
I'm not defending AVB here either given Lampards performances of late what he did doesn't seem to be justified but to jump to such conclusions in a melodramatic fashion is premature.
Personally if its between Martinez and AVB i think we would have been best to keep Dalglish., but i'll support either one if they get the job because they deserve a chance to prove people wrong.
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Massive assumptions being made, fair enough if thats your opinion but i highly doubt its backed up well. Chelsea is a club that has been rumoured to have had senior players go behind their managers backs and whinge straight to the owner on numerous previous occasions with other managers.
Nobody will know what really went down behind the scenes at Chelsea during AVB's reign for years, so its best to stop speculating...the facts are it did not work out but whether it was because of "his man management style" (like alot of people seem to subscribe to) or because the senior players ego's at the club were too big we can't know.
I'm not defending AVB here either given Lampards performances of late what he did doesn't seem to be justified but to jump to such conclusions in a melodramatic fashion is premature.
Personally if its between Martinez and AVB i think we would have been best to keep Dalglish., but i'll support either one if they get the job because they deserve a chance to prove people wrong.
Carroll and Suarez look a shoo-in for both. Does Johnson and Enrique suffer at the hands of Martinez? Lucas and Henderson look ideal for AvB's set-up. Downing left in limbo?
What makes you think Martinez would play 3-4-3 here? He changed it to match Wigan's needs.
What nonsense. Evans had no plan B. If McManaman in his free role was having an off-day (which he did frequently) we were usually bereft of ideas.
We've played exciting football at times under all the managers since - yes even under the disastrous Dalglish tenure.
I don't recall the Evans era with any great fondness. If anything it was a period of repeated missed opportunities. He didn't get nearly enough out of that squad, but then when I saw that he'd got the manager's job in the first place I nearly choked on my corn flakes
It could be because you seem to be a generally miserable person, and that you don't recall anything with fondness. You should try and lighten up slightly and not take every comment so serious, or at least not read more in to them than they say.
I didn't say we got great results out of it, but it's last time we really played offensive exciting football and not the controlling type football installed with Houllier and partly continued by Rafa.
What makes you think Martinez would play 3-4-3 here? He changed it to match Wigan's needs.
Purely a guess to pass the time on a quiet day.
Kronenbourg1892 alluded to the formation and I did a little bit of research from that. With Martinez playing that formation, I wondered who - from our current personnel - could be utilised in that set-up and who could be considered obsolete.
Plus 3-4-3 is the new 4-2-3-1 which came after 4-3-2-1 which replaced the 4-4-2, innit.
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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