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This link with Rodgers disturbs me. A couple of good seasons and he is The Oracle of Football.
I would prefer Martinez to Rodgers. However, this is the guy who oversaw his Wigan team ship 9 goals against Tottenham and a further 8 against Chelsea in the same season. He also lost 9 games in a row one season. Quite an achievement.
Rafa would be my choice but I don't think there's a chance.
While the structure in Barca has worked for the last few years it helps when you've got the best player in the world. Past performance is no guarantee of future success.. Not sure why FSG "think" that's the way to go - not as if there antics are working consistently with the Red Sox.
That SoS mail/letter was a bit ott, but I agree with the sentiment.Substance > Style
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Just reading up on Rodgers managerial career pre-Swansea:Originally posted by ronanm View PostThis link with Rodgers disturbs me. A couple of good seasons and he is The Oracle of Football.
I would prefer Martinez to Rodgers. However, this is the guy who oversaw his Wigan team ship 9 goals against Tottenham and a further 8 against Chelsea in the same season. He also lost 9 games in a row one season. Quite an achievement.
Rafa would be my choice but I don't think there's a chance.
While the structure in Barca has worked for the last few years it helps when you've got the best player in the world. Past performance is no guarantee of future success.. Not sure why FSG "think" that's the way to go - not as if there antics are working consistently with the Red Sox.
That SoS mail/letter was a bit ott, but I agree with the sentiment.
- He had Watford in the relegation zone for a while but they finished with a flurry and ended up in 13th place. Won 13, Drawn 7, Lost 12.
- He then joined Reading in June 2009 and had left "by mutual contest" by Decemeber! With an impressive win rate of 26%
Admittedly he's done a wonderful job with Swansea but he's still a massive NO from me. Nowhere near ready, he'd be a HUGE gamble.
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Poor guys won't know what's hit them if Louis Van Gaal is our new DOF and Andre Villas Boas is our manager.
Not for the faint hearted at all. Anyone who cries at missing a game will be out. Both are cut from the same cloth as Benitez and Mourinho and are exactly what we need. The whole of Europe would take notice of this.
I think Steve Clarke would be pivotal too, especially since he gets on extremely well with the players. May be useful if players start whinging.
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Why would anyone want to manage Liverpool?
The high number of candidates to manage at Anfield proves they aren't what they once were
By Matt Porter 18 hours ago
Brendon Rodgers, Frank De Boer and Didier Deschamps distance themselves from the vacant Liverpool manager position. Matt Porter says the Reds are in decline.
A mate sent me a text message the other day: “to save on costs Liverpool FC have scrapped their own TV channel and merged it with the History Channel.” It wasn’t necessarily the funniest text ever, but it was succinct and to the point – and probably not a million miles away from reflecting the truth.
If you look at the last 50 years, rather than just the Premier League era, it’s not hard to argue that they’re the most successful English club globally – and they’ve certainly suffered enough tragedy to rock them to their Anfield foundations.
But Liverpool is a club stuck between the glorious achievements of their past and the fear of their future. They can’t let the former go and they find it tough to face up to what could be on the horizon.
"Roberto Martinez will still not be best pleased at being thrown in the mix with all manner of mercenaries"
Their fans sing more about Steve Heighway and Bill Shankly than they do any of their modern day charges, and it’s hard to imagine Roy Hodgson would have been tolerated for an eighth place Premier League finish below Everton in the same way King Kenny was, with or without the token of the Carling Cup.
Brendan Rogers, brave and clever enough to reject a short term windfall at Chelsea, has also declined this so-called step up, and Roberto Martinez, who admittedly has served a longer apprenticeship than Rodgers, will still not be best pleased at being thrown in the mix with all manner of mercenaries although could still find the prospect too appealing to reject.
The fact that some bookmakers have priced over 50 candidates for the job shows the problem Liverpool have. When Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger call it a day will there be that many names linked with their roles?
Liverpool are "scattergunning their way through the LMA’s contacts directory"
No, there’ll be two or three stand out candidates and their boards will know who to move on and in which order, rather than scattergunning their way through the LMA’s contacts directory.
Liverpool’s creaking Anfield holds memories but no future for them. Spurs have a new project underway and Chelsea have gone public on Battersea Power Station.
Theoretically within a decade Liverpool could find themselves not only mid-table in the football table, but also the capacities table.
You can’t throw history books at the stars of the European stage or the boardrooms of the multinationals that love to be associated with the biggest clubs and expect them to come running.
You can respectfully thumb your way through the glossy pictures of trophies being held aloft, but it’s the blank page that sits in front of Liverpool at the moment that’s in need of the right words.
Matt Porter is the chief executive of Leyton Orient Football Club.Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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I think Clarke was the bad cop in the double actOriginally posted by Phoenix06 View Post
I think Steve Clarke would be pivotal too, especially since he gets on extremely well with the players. May be useful if players start whinging.
The good cop was sackedBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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I prefer the idea of Martinez and Van Gaal than AVB and Van Gaal. But I'm cautiously optimistic about the setup that FSG seem to want. It's a kind of modern bootroom. So what if Van Gaal is a ****** - he'll be our ****** and he'll set up an excellent footballing philosophy, spot and draw excellent talent and encourage young players into the 1st teamFelching ≠ Gerbilling
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Tony Evans þ@TonyEvansTimes
Here's my ideal conbination for LFC. AVB under LVG. That'll be functional. Really. Honest. This is my true opinion. Not. A. Lie
12m Martin Lipton þ@MartinLipton
@TonyEvansTimes Do you really think so, Tony? Not putting too many egos in one basket?
10m Tony Evans þ@TonyEvansTimes
@MartinLipton It'd last about 30 seconds. Car crashBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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TBH If we can't have Rafa (and it looks like that will be the case) then I would like an AVB + LVG combo more than anything else that we have been linked to.
A lot of "if's" in that combo:
- Can they work together?
- Who identifies our transfer targets?
- Who decides how our tactics are?
But IF they work together I think it will be a very very powerful setup.
If I was FSG it would sound very appealing to me.
Also having LVG as a major player in our setup, would give us a proper football man to guide in matters where I really really REALLY don't want Ayre or JWH to be the judge.
Bring it on, I say... (and few on here loves Rafa more than I do)
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