New manager thread

[Lecter]

It's definitely stick or twist time for FSG. A low key appointment with moderate transfer cash and keep LFC ticking over as a lowish returning investment, or make a proper push for success with more cash, more risk and potentially bigger returns. We'll see.

[Lee]

I don't like Whelan at all but the quote below is quite nice.

I did promise Roberto when a big club comes he will have permission to talk to them and they don't come any bigger than Liverpool. I gave permission and he will be talking to them soon."

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Ass Elbow

Coming from you?

So your quick to give Martinez credit for Swansea but do you give Houghton credit for Newcastle or is that all Pardew?

There is a difference from implementing something and seeing it through, its much harder to take a team to and keep them in the PL playing a certain way than it is to get a team just playing a certain way.

Newcastle finished 13 points a head of us, a team that was 'set up' by Houghton, should we be in for him? He's a likeable guy too.. And for what its worth he's a pretty good manager.

[Lecter]

Whatever type of manager they want, they have to at least make out like they are chasing the big names, it's the done thing.

[Kronenburg1892]

It's definitely stick or twist time for FSG. A low key appointment with moderate transfer cash and keep LFC ticking over as a lowish returning investment, or make a proper push for success with more cash, more risk and potentially bigger returns. We'll see.

I think the ticking over was their every intention whilst City were spending and these FFP rules come into force.

But right now, I'm getting the feeling these guys have done their homework.

[marcus50bucks]

Management but not as we know it is new Anfield model

Tony Barrett
Published 1 minute ago

When Kenny Dalglish was dismissed on Wednesday it did not just bring his association with Liverpool to a sudden end, it marked the pivotal moment in a revolution that will allow his former club to dispense with the traditional managerial role he had occupied.

“A very simple decision based on results,” was how Ian Ayre, the Liverpool managing director, described the move to oust Dalglish after a disappointing Barclays Premier League season. The complex system that will replace his position is anything but straightforward, however, with an ensemble of individuals with contrasting and hopefully complementary qualities set to converge around a manager who will be afforded less control than his predecessors.

The managerial model that Fenway Sports Group (FSG), the Liverpool owner, hopes to install is yet to be revealed to the public, but with appointments to various technical, scouting and administrative positions imminent, Ayre shone at least some light on how the new set-up will operate.

Although Ayre stopped short of defining the disparate roles or identifying the individuals who will fill them, it is understood that Pep Segura, the technical director at the club’s academy, is likely to be promoted to a similar role with the first team. A direct replacement for Damien Comolli as director of football is no longer being sought, but FSG is in the final stages of filling a general manager-style position.

“We are going to have a different structure,” Ayre said. “There will be more than one person in and around that role, in the sense of dividing up some of the responsibility. We are fairly imminent on a lot of the positions where people have exited. We are quite close to the arrival of replacements.

“The idea is to have rather than one person with the responsibility for all things that Damien’s role took on, we want to make sure there is key focus in each of the key segments in that role, and there will be two or three positions in there.

“All will become clear quite soon, but running a big football club is a big challenge and it is evident you need focus in each area, with a specialist in each area to give us value in each area, and that’s the route we are going down.”

Such a fundamental divergence from the traditional managerial structure is clearly a gamble by FSG, albeit one that demonstrates both its ambition and its willingness to do the unconventional. It is also likely to test its ability to attract a top-class manager to take over from Dalglish given that his successor — with Roberto Martínez now favourite for the role — will have to sign up to an unconventional arrangement in which division of responsibilities is central.

If there is little clarity about the role at present, then the reasons for Dalglish’s departure mean that his successor will have no ambiguities about his aims and objectives. By admitting that even had Liverpool triumphed in the FA Cup Final Dalglish would probably not have survived, Ayre underlined that only Champions League qualification is likely to provide job security for the incumbent.

“It was never about an individual result — and rightly so,” Ayre said. “It was always about taking a review of the stock of the season in full. It’s a very simple decision based on results and based on do you believe that that’s going to change? And, as I said, 37 points off the winners and 17 points off fourth place and 14 losses, that was the measurement on which the owners made their decision.”
Whatever the merits of the new managerial blueprint, Liverpool’s fourth manager in two years will at least be armed with funds of about £30 million for investment in the playing squad.

“You wouldn’t expect to unveil a plan to take the club forward, to bring in a new manager, and not invest in it,” Ayre said. Now all Liverpool need is someone willing to take on a role that will be vastly different from the one from which Dalglish was jettisoned two days ago.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/...cle3418298.ece

Don't like the sound of this structure. Can't see a top class manager wanting to work under such constraints.

[BootRoom]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...nez?CMP=twt_gu

Liverpool put Pep Guardiola at top of wish-list for new manager

• Wigan give Roberto Martínez permission to talk to Liverpool
• Fabio Capello and André Villas-Boas also under consideration

Andy Hunter
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 17 May 2012 22.51 BST

The outgoing Barcelona coach, Pep Guardiola, is at the top of Liverpool's list as the club searches for a new manager. Photograph: Juan Ferreras/EPA

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Replacements for Comolli – with his old job to be divided between its administrative, scouting and negotiating functions – Graham Bartlett, the former commercial director, and the head of communications Ian Cotton are anticipated in the next fortnight. The managerial search, said Ayre, who recently had his contract extended at Liverpool, is based "on a whole range of things, from experience and ability, methodology, style of play, character traits. As we've seen in the past it is not just about the football. It is about how controlling some are compared to others. There's a particular process that fits part of the plan we are trying to put together. It has to be a manager who fits in all of that."

Ayre's "controlling" comment would appear to rule out Rafael Benítez from a Liverpool return, the former manager having been given control over all football operations in his final contract.

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Those that are hoping for Rafa should take a few moments to dwell on this.

[Exiled_red]

Rafa is never coming back if Ayre is involved in the decision making process.

[wavydavy]

James Pearce @JamesPearceEcho
#LFC awaiting response from Swansea after making approach for Brendan Rodgers. Martinez and Rodgers just 2 of names to be spoken to.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Rafa is never coming back if Ayre is involved in the decision making process.

He should be as far away from the decision as possible. Regardless of Rafa, needs to be impartial and the best fit for the club.

[S-RED]

so it's better arye & his cronies keep there 500k jobs than we get the right manager ; we are mid table div 1 in 5 years if thats the case

[Tee]

Wonder if West Ham will give us permission to talk to Fat Sam.

Have to say, Stan Collymore has gone up tenfold in my books since yesterday. He has spoken so well about how the club should move forward.

[BootRoom]

Rafa is never coming back if Ayre is involved in the decision making process.

I'd say even if Ayre was jettisoned, FSG wouldn't find Rafa appropriate for their "collegiate" style of management.

[S-RED]

I'd say even if Ayre was jettisoned, FSG wouldn't find Rafa appropriate for their "collegiate" style of management.

thats bollocks rafa is the STAND OUT candidate - WHY CANNOT EVERYONE SEE THAT

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

so it's better arye & his cronies keep there 500k jobs than we get the right manager ; we are mid table div 1 in 5 years if thats the case

Not to that extreme but the I agree that we should be TRYING for better. Get the best man available to us. If that's either Rodgers or Martinez then **** me I'm surprised.