New manager thread

[Alex]

For me, people saying his Chelsea experience is 'irrelevant' and 'he had no chance with the players running the show' is akin to people saying Hodgson had no chance here because he wasnt Dalglish.

It's totally different. AVB wanted a clean brush and to get rid of the old guard. Hodgson was ****.

[Ben_Itez]

I think you missed my point Alex.

[Alex]

I think you missed my point Alex.

Whoosh

[Nicey]

I wanted him back at first, but then I was reminded of the cult following and Kenneth's post here was spot on.

I dont get this ... what so wrong with idolizing a manager ? we do it with players all the time ... is it so wrong to idolize a man who took us to two champions lg finals, drank with the fans in a pub, considers his children scousers, moved to the city, shed geniue tears at the memorial service, his wife works for charities in the city, a man who threw himself into the tradition of the club ... is it so wrong to idolize a man like that ?


Well if it is, guilty as charged


I relaize not everybody is going to feel that strongly, but why take issue with the people who do

[BobTheCharmer]

I think you missed my point Alex.

he didn't

[Rich]

Rafa

[Ben_Itez]

Whoosh

he didn't

Care to explain my point then?

[Nicey]

I'll be very very very VERY disappointed if Villas Boas gets the job.

Seems like a complete cock, not the right fit for us at all. Classless.

Its hard to know what to beleive, he was hardly at the best club in the world in terms of decency

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

If we get him, I reckon he'll want a really big overhaul of the squad. Most of the squad doesn't seem capable of fitting into his style of play. Slow, thick in the head and mentally fragile.

He's a Portuguese Rafa in my eyes, except he focuses much much more on technique.

I'm trying to prepare myself to accept Martinez, but my brain just can't take it at the moment.

I'm not too sure we'll overhaul to an extreme extent.

Reina (Quick off his line)
Johnson (Pace)
Skrtel (I'm unsure)
Agger (Intelligent)
Enrique (Pace)
Lucas (Positioning)

That's where it fell down at Chelsea. I'd much rather have the above in that style of play than Cech, Ivanovic, Terry, Luiz, Cole and Mikel/Romeu which is how it was for the majority of his tenure.

We'd need to add at least 1 wide player and another CB because Carragher couldn't do it and I'm not certain if it suits Coates either.

A goalscorer is needed pretty much whoever takes over.

Be interesting to see if he'd carry on developing Shelvey, Henderson, Sterling etc.

[Ben_Itez]

Its hard to know what to beleive, he was hardly at the best club in the world in terms of decency

My opinion is nothing to do with what Chelsea players said about him, purely base upon the way he came across in interviews.

Obviously if you throw in the rumours and what Chelsea players said then he seems an even bigger cock.

I may well be wrong but it's just the impression i get and for me he just isnt a good fit for the job.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Klopp and FDB I can understand, but ignoring Rafa for the like of AVB and Martinez is beyond ridiculous.

[sevennilphil]

I dont get this ... what so wrong with idolizing a manager ? we do it with players all the time ... is it so wrong to idolize a man who took us to two champions lg finals, drank with the fans in a pub, considers his children scousers, moved to the city, shed geniue tears at the memorial service, his wife works for charities in the city, a man who threw himself into the tradition of the club ... is it so wrong to idolize a man like that ?


Well if it is, guilty as charged


I relaize not everybody is going to feel that strongly, but why take issue with the people who do

[Shanks]

I think the reason Rafa would not be given the role is because of his rumoured relationship with Ayre and perhaps his need for full control.

And people dismissing AVB due to Chelsea, could say a similar thing regarding Rafa at Inter..

[Kenneth]

So many candidates distancing themselves, pretty soon it'll be a straight fight between Dave Bassett and Dora the Explorer.

She might help us appeal to Spanish/South American players.

[Phoenix07]

I dont get this ... what so wrong with idolizing a manager ? we do it with players all the time ... is it so wrong to idolize a man who took us to two champions lg finals, drank with the fans in a pub, considers his children scousers, moved to the city, shed geniue tears at the memorial service, his wife works for charities in the city, a man who threw himself into the tradition of the club ... is it so wrong to idolize a man like that ?
Well if it is, guilty as charged

I relaize not everybody is going to feel that strongly, but why take issue with the people who do

No one accepts there may be two sides to every story. It's always the 'Get rid of Carragher, Gerrard, Ayre, anyone who doesn't like Rafa' stuff that really irks. All the 'FSG are this and that if they don't talk to him'. Maybe they have their reasons? I know he did all of the above, but again, if one person even dares mentions the stuff at Inter or his last season with us, they instantly a WUM who has been reading fed Sky agenda bollocks.

I've no beef with the man. It's this bizarre zombie-like 'It must be Rafa, no one else but him' that I have the beef with. I can't enjoy a discussion about him without someone just chipping in with 'I wish he was here.' Even Kenny Dalglish's reign was dogged with it. I mean, Kenny Dalglish! If he got those kind of comments, then what hope does any future manager stand?

I commented a while ago that he has the same effect on fans as Mourinho does at Chelsea. The next manager doesn't stand a chance IMO.

We are becoming the new Chelsea, but it's because of the above. We'll get Martinez or Villas Boas and when we're 7th in the table in October, the comments will be back 'We should've had Rafa'.

I wish he'd just get a job at a different club and then come back later on if there is a vacancy. Otherwise, it's just going to hang over every manager onwards because they aren't Rafa.

I wouldn't call some of the stuff I read idolising. I'd call it a cult following. I've said I've witnessed it from personal experience and that's why I react strongly with it. Nothing personal with anyone or with Rafa.