New manager thread

[Kenneth]

.....and debt wise they are up **** creek without a paddle

No doubt.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

They might. Uproar doesn't cost money in the scheme of things.

Of course it does. I can't speak for everyone but during Hodgson's time here, I didn't buy the shirt, I didn't get time off work to go to matches and I'm sure it was the same for plenty of others. We also missed out on Europe despite Kenny's run at the end of the season.

Its sad to say but if we finish lower in the league and turn out dross performances then we will get less bums on seats. There would be no need to build a new stadium #Conspiracy

[el matador]

The likes of van gaal and avb hardly constitute a beauty parade.

Martinez though is a queers dream.

[little dave hedgehog]

would be something if klopp came after saying he wasn't.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Ian Abrahams @Moose_talkSPORT

The source who tipped me the wink about Klopp to Liverpool says the issue should be resolved overnight/tomorrow


@Moose_talkSPORT friend of mine works for fsg, martinez met lfc and villa 2day in miami - kloop in 1st place, announcement due 2night/2moz


He is very adament to be fair...He may be onto something.

Pray for Klopp

His reputation will be lost or made tomorrow, he'll still continue to spout ****e if he's wrong claiming his source let him down blah blah.

[kingfunk]

This is a game of big balls.

[Kenneth]

However being bottom of the league was due to the appointment.

Its a circle of ****

No it isn't. It's separate and ****. If Roy had been more successful, he wouldn't have been sacked so soon and they wouldn't have paid him off like they did. So the uproar at his appointment didn't cost them money, in the same way fans being unhappy about Martinez wouldn't.

[BrooklynRed]

Finding the anti-Martinez arguments to be the height of irrationality. How does Wigan, ****ing Wigan!'s performance in the table reflect Martinez's future performance with financial backing, world class players and a long term contract? It's hilarious to me that we finish 8th and the players have let Kenny down, but Martinez is responsible for every aspect of Wigan's performance on the pitch. If you gave Mario Andretti a Ford Taurus and me a Ferrari, who would win the race? Me! Am I a better driver than Mario Andretti? **** no. My point is that Roberto Martinez has as much of a chance to win with our side as anyone else because our team is soooo much better than Wigan. The fact that they are facing relegation each year are not because of the manager's tactics, it's because the economics of football are well beyond the club. They don't have the tools to compete. And yet, despite that, Martinez had them playing good football and kept them up.

If he had been managing Barca's players for the past five years, you'd think he was the greatest ever. But he's been stuck at ****ing Wigan and somehow the fact that they don't have world class players is his fault.

He is not my first choice, AVB is, but I am more than willing to give him a ****ing chance and not assume we're going to be Wigan from now on. Past performance is no indication of future results, especially given how many factors influence football results.... Players being the most important.

Maybe I need a break... This thread is doing my head in...

[kingfunk]

But your not Irish?

[Kenneth]

Of course it does. I can't speak for everyone but during Hodgson's time here, I didn't buy the shirt, I didn't get time off work to go to matches and I'm sure it was the same for plenty of others. We also missed out on Europe despite Kenny's run at the end of the season.

Its sad to say but if we finish lower in the league and turn out dross performances then we will get less bums on seats. There would be no need to build a new stadium #Conspiracy

The stuff not in bold isn't relevant to the point, but re the bold stuff, I very much doubt that revenues dropped significantly because Roy was named manager. They probably dropped when we were ****, but that is a different issue. We do not know that Martinez would be ****.

[Buzzo]

No it isn't. If Roy had been more successful, he wouldn't have been sacked so soon and they wouldn't have paid him off like they did. So the uproar at his appointment didn't cost them money, in the same way fans being unhappy about Martinez wouldn't.

WTF? Thats like a ****ing riddle.

You've lost me. Black is white, night is day etc?

[little dave hedgehog]

Finding the anti-Martinez arguments to be the height of irrationality. How does Wigan, ****ing Wigan!'s performance in the table reflect Martinez's future performance with financial backing, world class players and a long term contract? It's hilarious to me that we Irish 8th and the players have let Kenny down, but Martinez is responsible for every aspect ofWigan's performance on the pitch. If you gave Mario Andretti a Ford Taurus and me a Ferrari, who would win the race? Me! Am I a better driver than Mario Andretti? **** no. My point is that Roberto Martinez has as much of a chance to win with our side as anyone else because our team is soooo much better than Wigan. The fact that they are facing relegation each year are not because of the manager's tactics, it's because the economics of football are well beyond the club. They don't have the tools to compete. And yet, despite that, Martinez had them playing good football and kept them up.

If he had been managing Barca's players for the past five years, you'd think he was the greatest ever. But he's been stuck at ****ing Wigan and somehow the fact that they don't have world class players is his fault.

He is not my first choice, AVB is, but I am more than willing to give him a ****ing chance and not assume we're going to be Wigan from now on. Past performance is no indication of future results, especially given how many factors influence football results.... Players being the most important.

Maybe I need a break... This thread is doing my head in...

although now that klopp is maybe back in the running, i'm preparing for a sex wee.

[kop-al-74]

But it is complete bull**** to suggest that appointing Martinez results in us being a mediocre club like Villa. Firstly, you're assuming he'd do badly, which isn't a given, we have a better squad then teams like Villa, and i expect we'll spend Significantly more on players than them also.

Not sure what you're refering to as bull****.

The point I am making,which looks like you have missed, is that he won't have the luxury of bedding in. It seems that many LFC fans would prefer Benitez or another proven manager at the highest level who has guided teams to championships or European success.

If Liverpool are in the bottom half of the table after 10-15 games it will be Hodgson all over.

[Kenneth]

WTF? Thats like a ****ing riddle.

You've lost me. Black is white, night is day etc?

Fans being unhappy at the appointment won't be a massive concern for them as it doesn't cost them money. The manager being **** would, but seeing as that isn't the forgone conclusion that many are suggesting, the fan reaction will be secondary to them compared to appointing who they think is the best available option. It's not that complicated mate.

[Kenneth]

Not sure what you're refering to as bull****.

The point I am making,which looks like you have missed, is that he won't have the luxury of bedding in. It seems that many LFC fans would prefer Benitez or another proven manager at the highest level who has guided teams to championships or European success.

If Liverpool are in the bottom half of the table after 10-15 games it will be Hodgson all over.

Everybody here seems to be talking as this is inevitable. It isn't.