New manager thread

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Finding the anti-Martinez arguments to be the height of irrationality. How does Wigan, ****ing Wigan!'s performance in the table reflect Martinez's future performance with financial backing, world class players and a long term contract? It's hilarious to me that we Irish 8th and the players have let Kenny down, but Martinez is responsible for every aspect ofWigan's performance on the pitch. If you gave Mario Andretti a Ford Taurus and me a Ferrari, who would win the race? Me! Am I a better driver than Mario Andretti? **** no. My point is that Roberto Martinez has as much of a chance to win with our side as anyone else because our team is soooo much better than Wigan. The fact that they are facing relegation each year are not because of the manager's tactics, it's because the economics of football are well beyond the club. They don't have the tools to compete. And yet, despite that, Martinez had them playing good football and kept them up.

If he had been managing Barca's players for the past five years, you'd think he was the greatest ever. But he's been stuck at ****ing Wigan and somehow the fact that they don't have world class players is his fault.

He is not my first choice, AVB is, but I am more than willing to give him a ****ing chance and not assume we're going to be Wigan from now on. Past performance is no indication of future results, especially given how many factors influence football results.... Players being the most important.

Maybe I need a break... This thread is doing my head in...

I stopped reading when you compared us to a Ferrari.. Not ignorantly, through be far too tired. Just because he's getting an improved vehicle so to speak doesn't mean he's the best driver.. See I made a point using cars too

I'll continue, how can the driver of a ford taurus prove he can handle a Ferrari? He's never drove one. Never dealt with the pressure to win and not just race.

If I dream about cars tonight, I'll be back to have words with you tomorrow

[Assassin]

What I find really amusing is; All the bollox that is written on the subject of our new manager. Those who write the ****e havent got a ****ing clue. However, those who read just go with the current wind from those who write bull****

Most people on here need to getting ****ing lives

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Fans being unhappy at the appointment won't be a massive concern for them as it doesn't cost them money. The manager being **** would, but seeing as that isn't the forgone conclusion that many are suggesting, the fan reaction will be secondary to them compared to appointing who they think is the best available option. It's not that complicated mate.

Fans are the biggest income this club has. If they're unhappy you will eventually know about it financially.

Edit: IF it doesn't work out.. Which at this point is a big IF because he's not even the manager yet.

[Slinky Skills]

I'm going to be honest here, I haven't got a clue about Klopp.

Why are people raving about him?

[little dave hedgehog]

I stopped reading when you compared us to a Ferrari.. Not ignorantly, through be far too tired. Just because he's getting an improved vehicle so to speak doesn't mean he's the best driver.. See I made a point using cars too

I'll continue, how can the driver of a ford taurus prove he can handle a Ferrari? He's never drove one. Never dealt with the pressure to win and not just race.

If I dream about cars tonight, I'll be back to have words with you tomorrow

he does race tauruses though, maybe he's a decent racer? and by that logic, how does anybody ever prove themselves capable of driving a ferrari? we'd be in a world where they only people who could drive a ferrari were the people who built them.

[vonk]

Thats the problem,if we get Martinez and we don't hit the ground running he will be under huge pressure,unlike any he has known. LFC is no ordinary club and I don't feel taking a chance on a relatively unproven manager is the right road to go down. People jest how we are the new Villa etc but we are still one of the biggest clubs in world football and FSG really need to realise this asap if they are thinking of someone like Martinez.

He will be under huge pressure regardless. It's already started. Our fans are going to hang the new manager after a few bad results simply because he's not Rafa.

[Neil Young]

It's not that complicated mate.

I fear Buzzo's normally clear mind may be temporarily clouded by a surfeit of Irn Bru and shortbread.

[little dave hedgehog]

I'm going to be honest here, I haven't got a clue about Klopp.

Why are people raving about him?

won the budesliga this season with another sleeping giant team, handing bayern their asses on several occasions.

[malg]

Finding the anti-Martinez arguments to be the height of irrationality. How does Wigan, ****ing Wigan!'s performance in the table reflect Martinez's future performance with financial backing, world class players and a long term contract? It's hilarious to me that we finish 8th and the players have let Kenny down, but Martinez is responsible for every aspect of Wigan's performance on the pitch. If you gave Mario Andretti a Ford Taurus and me a Ferrari, who would win the race? Me! Am I a better driver than Mario Andretti? **** no. My point is that Roberto Martinez has as much of a chance to win with our side as anyone else because our team is soooo much better than Wigan. The fact that they are facing relegation each year are not because of the manager's tactics, it's because the economics of football are well beyond the club. They don't have the tools to compete. And yet, despite that, Martinez had them playing good football and kept them up.

If he had been managing Barca's players for the past five years, you'd think he was the greatest ever. But he's been stuck at ****ing Wigan and somehow the fact that they don't have world class players is his fault.

He is not my first choice, AVB is, but I am more than willing to give him a ****ing chance and not assume we're going to be Wigan from now on. Past performance is no indication of future results, especially given how many factors influence football results.... Players being the most important.

Maybe I need a break... This thread is doing my head in...

It's one he'll of a risk to give the Liverpool job to Martinez. Yes he had a good second half of the season,and to let him have the Liverpool job based on that is ludicrous. Some of your statement is a bit,well over the top. Yes of ourse if he had been managing Barcelona for the last 5 years would be an excellent choice and would ave proved his worth (if he had in that dream succeeeed ) BUT he hasn't been at Barca he's been at Wigan, and only made them survive. I would hate him in charge, as I feel he would fail, and failure is something we can do without at the moment.

[kop-al-74]

He will be under huge pressure regardless. It's already started. Our fans are going to hang the new manager after a few bad results simply because he's not Rafa.

Oh for sure

[little dave hedgehog]

He will be under huge pressure regardless. It's already started. Our fans are going to hang the new manager after a few bad results simply because he's not Rafa.

you're right, they should surrender their own ideas and rights as owners because fans have an unreasonable lob on.

[Kenneth]

Fans are the biggest income this club has. If they're unhappy you will eventually know about it financially.

Yes, but that will be based on how the team performs. We'll sell out our season ticket spares this summer whoever is made manager. We'll get the same TV money. We'll sell the same number of shirts around the world. The appointment of Martinez won't cost us money. The way he performs as manager could of course.

[Neil Young]

Can lobs be unreasonable?

[Kenneth]

you're right, they should surrender their own ideas and rights as owners because fans have an unreasonable lob on.

"Ok, so they put £300m + of their own money on the line, but that doesn't give them the right to give a manager a chance who I have a gut feeling won't be the best option"

[little dave hedgehog]

yes.