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  • baitman
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    Originally posted by Lecter View Post
    It hasn't been that trial is in April

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  • Lecter
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    Originally posted by baitman View Post
    The alteration of police pocket (evidence) books and statements has conveniently been swept then.
    It hasn't been that trial is in April
    Last edited by Lecter; 28-11-19, 11:39 PM.

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  • baitman
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    The alteration of police pocket (evidence) books and statements has conveniently been swept then.

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  • Cerbie
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    It should not be about responsibility but accountability. As the senior police officer in charge, he was accountable certainly for the Police actions on the day and arguably for the coordination of all the emergency services along with oversight of the stewards too.

    So Duckenfield was the sole accountable individual on the day 96 people were unlawfully killed....

    For me anything less than a custodial sentence for this self confessed liar is criminal.

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  • Lecter
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    Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
    To be honest I would have been very surprised if he was found guilty, so am not surprised at the verdict. Personally I just don't think that there is enough proof that he was solely responsible and that his incompetence wasn't caused by a lack of training etc where it could be argued that he ultimately wasn't responsible (or at least that could be argued).

    I imagine that a charge of corporate manslaughter against South Yorkshire Police would be successful if one could be brought, but this isn't possible because such a law didn't exist in 1989. The families have to work within this framework, so ultimately I think we are going to be left with the situation where 96 people were unlawfully killed, but no-one will ever be held responsible.

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  • Exiled_red
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    To be honest I would have been very surprised if he was found guilty, so am not surprised at the verdict. Personally I just don't think that there is enough proof that he was solely responsible and that his incompetence wasn't caused by a lack of training etc where it could be argued that he ultimately wasn't responsible (or at least that could be argued).

    I imagine that a charge of corporate manslaughter against South Yorkshire Police would be successful if one could be brought, but this isn't possible because such a law didn't exist in 1989. The families have to work within this framework, so ultimately I think we are going to be left with the situation where 96 people were unlawfully killed, but no-one will ever be held responsible.
    Last edited by Exiled_red; 28-11-19, 09:53 PM.

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  • Lecter
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    Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
    Margaret Aspinall is absolutely incredible. It's heartbreaking how ****ing amazing she manages to be.
    Shes amazing. She has enormous strength of character

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  • Lecter
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    Originally posted by Phoenix07 View Post
    There's some really nasty comments on the internet tonight. Fans getting blamed again.
    **** em

    I was at Hillsborough and was in the crush outside the Leppings Lane End

    Not a day goes by that I am not grateful for surviving that and it was literally by the scruff of my collar that I didnt end up down that tunnel

    One of my mates who I played footie with died there

    The inquest verdict was huge for me, I felt the stuff I had been saying for years to accuses was thoroughly vindicated

    The trials gave the families hope but it was always a long shot imo

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  • Red_Polo
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    Margaret Aspinall is absolutely incredible. It's heartbreaking how ****ing amazing she manages to be.

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  • Lecter
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    Originally posted by baitman View Post
    I heard the judges summing up and his guidance to the jury yesterday and kind of guessed the rest.
    Please dont convict my mate who is also a mason etc...
    Even before that it was a long shot

    Just look what is needed to show a guilty negligence mansalughter it's a very high bar

    I didnt fancy a guilty vedict even before it went to trial

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  • Phoenix07
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    There's some really nasty comments on the internet tonight. Fans getting blamed again.

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  • rodo
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    if 96 coppers died someone would carry the can if 96 middle class kids died someone would carry the can so not shocked by this in any way

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  • baitman
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    I heard the judges summing up and his guidance to the jury yesterday and kind of guessed the rest.
    Please dont convict my mate who is also a mason etc...

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  • Lecter
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    Originally posted by Assassin View Post
    Unbelievable!!!
    Not really I expected this

    The moment he wasnt convicted first time round it made this one more likely

    I personally felt the chances of him being convicted were slim

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  • Lecter
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    Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
    The verdict is what it is, a jury decision on specific charges. It's tragic that he hasn't been held responsible for his clear failings in any meaningful way, whether manslaughter or not.
    I always thought the chances of a manslaughter verdict were slim

    The trial gave everyone hope though
    Last edited by Lecter; 28-11-19, 05:59 PM.

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