Hillsborough

[Chazza]

[Neil Young]

Couldn't agree more. The man is a disgrace and it's about time he was stripped of his knighthood and pension.

[Leyton388]

Wow indeed but not surprising. Hope he gets what's coming to him

[Fivex]

Wow.

[Neil Young]

Not directly relevant but perhaps people might like to know that Bettison has been referred to the IPCC over claims he tried to influence a key witness at the Macpherson Inquiry to try to discredit the family of Stephen Lawrence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23171119

[Captain Stu]

Oh fancy that. "Lost" were they?

[RichC]

Taken them a while!

New Hillsborough documents found by West Midlands Police
25 Jun 2013 09:55

Two new items found after new search of force archives


New documents have emerged which could hold vital information on the police's role at Hillsborough, it was revealed today.

West Midlands Police, the force brought in to investigate the actions of South Yorkshire officers on the day of the disaster, said a search of its archives had uncovered two items which related to Hillsborough.

The information was found during a routine, unconnected search in the force's Birmingham headquarters.

Understood to be held on floppy disk and paper, they will now be passed to the Independent Police Complaints Commission and are expected to form part of its investigation in to the tragedy.

The IPCC, along with a separate investigation team led by former Durham chief constable Jon Stoddart, will support the fresh inquests in to the deaths of the 96 victims, due to start in March 2014.

Earlier this month coroner Lord Justice Goldring said he would use their documents and investigation teams to help support the inquest process.

West Midlands Police bosses today said the discovery had prompted them to launch a full-scale search of their buildings and archives for similar documents.

Deputy Chief Constable Dave Thompson said: “We have no reason to believe West Midlands Police holds any more Hillsborough related material but, due to the recent finds, we want to be able to assert this with the highest degree of confidence to the inquest coroner.

“That’s why we’ve announced a rigorous, systematic search of all archived material in our buildings.

“This is a voluntary move initiated by West Midlands Police and demonstrates our commitment to openness and transparency. We will leave no stone unturned.

“If any material relating to Hillsborough remains on West Midlands Police property we are confident the search will uncover it.”

As well as the headquarters building, officers will comb through records at the Nechells Green police station in Birmingham, where the force’s investigation of South Yorkshire Police was focused, and other buildings where relevant material could have been transferred at a later date.

The official West Midlands archive storage facility in Derbyshire will also be searched.

Dep Chief Con Thompson vowed all searches would be finished by December, well in advance of the new inquest process.

[Exiled_red]

How ****ty.

This was inevitable though wasn't it? I am sure the families have been prepared for **** like this to happen.

As awful as it is, I have to agree that it is somewhat inevitable, while this inquiry has convinced more people of what we have long known to be the true version of events, there have been large institutions and groups of people that have been perpetuating their lies for 24 years, and I don't think that they are ready to give that up yet, for a number of reasons (many to save their own skins). There are probably also many people who still believe the lies because they have heard it so many times they have just accepted it.

Having come so far and finally had our voices heard it is perhaps easy believe that things have changed, but we have not got justice yet, the fight still goes on.

JFT 96

[TheElephantMan]

I used to have a mate who is a Manc and he said something similar, he's not my mate any more. The truth isn't the version of events that some people want to believe.

[Alex]

How ****ty.

This was inevitable though wasn't it? I am sure the families have been prepared for **** like this to happen.

[Shaggy]

Speechless.

Dave Phillips @lovefutebol
There truly are no words. MT “@skynewsnorth: Lawyer for police commanders says HIP report was not truly independent. #hillsborough”

[Phoenix07]

Just spotted this on RAWK and posted it on here just in case anyone can help.

http://www.broudiejacksoncanter.co.u...s/hillsborough

Hillsborough
Were You at Hillsborough?
Can You Help?

On 19 December 2012, the High Court quashed all the inquest verdicts for the Hillsborough 96 and ordered new inquests.

A new Coroner has been appointed who will be holding fresh inquests in due course.

Broudie Jackson & Canter act for 19 of the families. I have personally been trying to overturn the inquest verdicts for almost 20 years.

The original inquests were a charade. They proceeded on an artificial cut-off point, accepted pathologists’ evidence which has now been discredited and police evidence which was fabricated.

We need your help to put this right.

We are now looking for witnesses who can give evidence as to what happened at Hillsborough on the day and also as to what happened afterwards – in particular where people feel that they were pressurised by the police to alter their evidence, or where they gave evidence critical of the police (or of other organisations) which they feel was ignored or covered-up.

We are also interested in hearing from people who were involved at the time in Crowd Safety, stewarding and the management of football venues or matches.

If you think you can help please call us on 0151 227 1429 and ask for Tara (ext 325) or Tracy ( ext 304)

Or email me on [email protected].

Elkan Abrahamson
Partner

[Shaggy]

Yeah read that this morning - here it is:

http://metro.co.uk/2013/05/21/colin-murray-hillsborough-continues-to-be-stuff-of-nightmares-3803691/

I didn’t watch it, not initially. I’d had a good day and I knew that would end the minute this programme began, so instead I enjoyed dinner with my family, took in a film, and only pressed play once those I love were safely in bed.

Now I sit here, at 3am, after viewing BBC Panorama’s ‘Hillsborough – How They Buried The Truth’, and I can’t think about anything else. Again.

Quite honestly, I’m thinking about what it would be like if my wife went out tomorrow and never came back. And if for almost a quarter of a century to follow I would have her memory spat upon and besmirched by those in positions of power who are meant to protect us and uphold our collective principles. And I just want to punch the wall in anger.

I’m thinking about how any human being can look at a pitch strewn with the dead, the dying and the wounded, a nearby temporary morgue filling up with bodies, and already be hatching a plan to pin the blame on those very same corpses in order to save their own skin.

I’m thinking that anyone who can do this must have no soul to speak of, and no conscience to answer.

I’m thinking about those left behind, and how they’ve managed to not only keep fighting for justice, but have done so without lowering themselves to the same gutter level as those who have denied them the right to bury their loved ones with dignity and in peace.

And I am not sure I would be able to summon the grace they possess, or be able to show the self-restraint they’ve displayed.

I’m thinking about how my words cannot even begin to describe the suffering felt by those who lost friends and family that day, and I wonder where they’ve found the courage to continue in the face of such despicable lies. I’m not sure I could have.

I’m thinking, with two inquiries charged with finally unearthing the real story of the worst day in the history of British football, that I don’t want to ever have to watch a programme like this week’s Panorama again.

That I want to stand in front of the Hillsborough memorial at Anfield in the near future and touch it in the knowledge that, at last, the truth has been written forever in history, and not to walk away from it knowing that those who caused this avoidable tragedy continue to get away with it scott free.

I’m hoping that the *******s responsible are having as much trouble sleeping tonight as I am.

[Oberon]

Colin Murray's column in the Metro today is very good and deserves a wider read than that thing can give him.

[Exiled_red]

I have no idea how the families affected by all of this managed to continue and fight for justice in such a dignified manner.

Unbelievably tough to watch some of that