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    Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
    If we were playing like we did last season a lot of these draws we have picked up would have been defeats imo. We look much more solid defensively that we did last season.
    Disagree

    To me we have been a shambles defensively this season
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      Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
      If we were playing like we did last season a lot of these draws we have picked up would have been defeats imo. We look much more solid defensively that we did last season.

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        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
        Disagree

        To me we have been a shambles defensively this season
        This season we have been let down by individual errors more than anything. Last season we were just badly set up. I couldn't see us capitulating like we did away at QPR last season this season.
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          Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
          This season we have been let down by individual errors more than anything. Last season we were just badly set up. I couldn't see us capitulating like we did away at QPR last season this season.
          I think we are terribly set up under Rodgers

          You can drive a bus through the enormous holes we have in our midfield and thats before we even discuss the space we leave between the back four and the midfield

          I think the shape of the side has been a shambles as has been the general pressing or lack thereof
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            Originally posted by Lecter View Post
            I think we are terribly set up under Rodgers

            You can drive a bus through the enormous holes we have in our midfield and thats before we even discuss the space we leave between the back four and the midfield

            I think the shape of the side has been a shambles as has been the general pressing or lack thereof
            100% spot on.
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              I don't think our defence is the problem it's the cover from the midfield in front of it.

              But, IIRC wasn't Agger and Skrtel the strongest CB partnership in the league last season?
              The times they are a changin'.

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                Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                I think we are terribly set up under Rodgers

                You can drive a bus through the enormous holes we have in our midfield and thats before we even discuss the space we leave between the back four and the midfield

                I think the shape of the side has been a shambles as has been the general pressing or lack thereof


                Went for a piss and you'd covered it.

                Fully agree though, Other teams pick up on it too, you regularly see their strikers or an attacking midfielder positioned In between our midfield and defence. Which is how Anzi scored their goal against us, and why Hernandez had so much joy against us on Sunday
                The times they are a changin'.

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                  Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                  I think we are terribly set up under Rodgers

                  You can drive a bus through the enormous holes we have in our midfield and thats before we even discuss the space we leave between the back four and the midfield

                  I think the shape of the side has been a shambles as has been the general pressing or lack thereof


                  The Front players don't look half arsed to press except for Luis. When teams attack us on the counter, Its a free for all sometimes where the players end up.

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                    Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                    I think we are terribly set up under Rodgers

                    You can drive a bus through the enormous holes we have in our midfield and thats before we even discuss the space we leave between the back four and the midfield

                    I think the shape of the side has been a shambles as has been the general pressing or lack thereof
                    Less goals against and lost the same number of games as the team sitting at the top of the table, indicates that perhaps the problem defensively isn't as bad as is being made out but turning tight games into victories is which considering we rely on Suarez and a 17 year old kid to provide the bullets isn't that surprising.

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                      Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                      Nope I cant see any improvement

                      We have played 13 games and have 16 points

                      If you look for a similar number of league games post Lucas' injury

                      First 13 league games after Lucas' injury we got 16 points

                      The final 13 league games after Lucas' injury we got 13 points

                      Oh and incidentally WBA had 14 points after 13 games last season and this season have 29 points from 13 games

                      See what I mean about good managers improving things


                      Swansea also have more points and have scored more they did last season.

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                        Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
                        Less goals against and lost the same number of games as the team sitting at the top of the table, indicates that perhaps the problem defensively isn't as bad as is being made out but turning tight games into victories is which considering we rely on Suarez and a 17 year old kid to provide the bullets isn't that surprising.


                        I think that the failure to add firepower in the summer is the one criticism that really sticks against Rodgers. His priorities were IMO wrong. If he rectifies that in January I think we could well be in very good shape.
                        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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                          Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                          Disagree

                          To me we have been a shambles defensively this season
                          Well we've conceded fewer goals than league leaders Man Utd. Only six teams have conceded fewer league goals than us in fact.

                          Not bad for a shambles

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                            Facts
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                              We are far more solid this year. Like someone said all these draws could easily have been losses last season. Its a good foundation. Just means once we get the attacking side of things right we are going to be a good side. Get Lucas and Allen working hard in the centre and we'll be even more solid as a unit. I think we are better off this season. Much more of a team that knows their individual roles than a team who have just been told to get out there and play football. (No offence to Dalglish)

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                                you could drive a bus through any midfield.
                                dave of mutilation

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