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    It means he needs CBT more than physio. Look I don't mean to bust his balls. I rate him very highly. I'm just frustrated but I do think he needs to be less paranoid about his injuries and accept that having slight niggles is part and parcel of the life of an athlete.

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      Originally posted by Big-Red-Ed View Post
      It means he needs CBT more than physio. Look I don't mean to bust his balls. I rate him very highly. I'm just frustrated but I do think he needs to be less paranoid about his injuries and accept that having slight niggles is part and parcel of the life of an athlete.
      That's the rational explanation from someone who's got a different perspective on things. We all are frustrated but we need to show more patience. Sturridge is a professional at the top level and you need to have a certain level of dedication and talent to get to that. It's totally unfair and plain wrong to say he's a bottler, not when you've reached that level and with the world at your feet. His body may be fragile and it may have taken its toll and affected him psychologically and he will need time to get over it.
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        Well regardless of why its happening he is in danger of becoming like Jose Enrique, you half know he is about the place but you don't really think about him at all when making starting 11s.

        He could just become irrelevant

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          Come on ffs, comparing him to Jose Enrique. Ridiculous. One has all the talent in the world and the other is an average squad player.
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            You appear to have completely missed the point!

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              Well, we are talking a lot about Sturridge, so he's not been forgotten!
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                My definition of a bottler is not how I view Daniel. A bottler is more someone who doesn't want to and is always reaching for an excuse. I think he has deep seated psychological issues about his fitness that need addressing.

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                  Have to say I find speculating about 'deep-seated psychological issues' of someone none of us knows personally, in fact someone none of us knows very much about at all, both uncomfortable and distasteful. I know it's a forum and it exists for discussion, often baseless discussion, but the whole topic is uninteresting, completely fantastical, and even more obnoxious than usual.

                  Is this accurate: Sturridge's injury problems could be physical, mental, or some combination thereof, and none of us have any idea in which proportion. Everything beyond that is really just empty pontificating.

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                    Originally posted by Hemingway View Post
                    Have to say I find speculating about 'deep-seated psychological issues' of someone none of us knows personally, in fact someone none of us knows very much about at all, both uncomfortable and distasteful. I know it's a forum and it exists for discussion, often baseless discussion, but the whole topic is uninteresting, completely fantastical, and even more obnoxious than usual.

                    Is this accurate: Sturridge's injury problems could be physical, mental, or some combination thereof, and none of us have any idea in which proportion. Everything beyond that is really just empty pontificating.
                    Yep, it's absolutely bizarre. Never met him, never spoke to him but suddenly a load of morons on here, Twitter and everywhere apparently know exactly what is going on in his head and can diagnose what an injury is via a computer screen without even seeing it! We live in impressive times now!!

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                      Originally posted by Chris View Post
                      Yep, it's absolutely bizarre. Never met him, never spoke to him but suddenly a load of morons on here, Twitter and everywhere apparently know exactly what is going on in his head and can diagnose what an injury is via a computer screen without even seeing it! We live in impressive times now!!
                      Hardly ****ing morons when the coach himself has come out and all but said he needs to ****ing man up ... ex players have said he needs to man up .. there is an awful lot of smoke now about how he will not play unless he feels 100% .... and the point has been made many times that most professional athletes, in fact even people who just train regularly are never 100% ... you pick up knocks .. you play and train through them ... Daniel does not seem to want to do this

                      We do not know him sure .. but we do know what people who are close to the club have alluded too about his delicate nature
                      Last edited by Nicey; 28-11-15, 02:08 AM.
                      Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
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                        Originally posted by Nicey View Post
                        Hardly ****ing morons when the coach himself has come out and all but said he needs to ****ing man up ... ex players have said he needs to man up .. there is an awful lot of smoke now about how he will not play unless he feels 100% .... and the point has been made many times that most professional athletes, in fact even people who just train regularly are never 100% ... you pick up knocks .. you play and train through them ... Daniel does not seem to want to do this

                        We do not know him sure .. but we do know what people who are close to the club have alluded too about his delicate nature
                        Even Klopp's words seem to be taken out of context. Morons usually don't see context.
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                          Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                          Even Klopp's words seem to be taken out of context. Morons usually don't see context.
                          Theres is ****ing context and were do you get off calling posters on this forum Morons just because they have a differenent ****ing opinion to yours .. he said Daniel needs to differentiate between serious pain and just pain ... tell me Fredo, for your manager to come out to say that .. you don't find that even in the slightest way suspect giving the ****ing context of the obvious question being raised widely on the internet forums, by ex players about his heart to play through the pain barrier . There is your ****ing context you condescending ignorant prick
                          Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                          #****CITY

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                            Why can't people take mental injury as seriously as real injury. He's probably got to overcome that too.
                            Was muß, das muß.

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                              Originally posted by Nicey View Post
                              Hardly ****ing morons when the coach himself has come out and all but said he needs to ****ing man up ... ex players have said he needs to man up .. there is an awful lot of smoke now about how he will not play unless he feels 100% .... and the point has been made many times that most professional athletes, in fact even people who just train regularly are never 100% ... you pick up knocks .. you play and train through them ... Daniel does not seem to want to do this

                              We do not know him sure .. but we do know what people who are close to the club have alluded too about his delicate nature
                              The manager hasn't said he needs to man up. He suggested that maybe he it's psychological.
                              *Except Michael, who died.

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                                another person could take that as he needs to grow a pair .. both opinions are equally valid and nobody needs to be a moron
                                Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                                #****CITY

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