Well if the collective will is to shut down mildly sexist conversation then it would be preferable if you did that and spared us the filibuster approach.
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WhatevsOriginally posted by Neil Young View PostYou guys can all convince yourselves that everything's all right, that you're all totally non-sexist, that you don't lazily objectify women and that all you want is the same right to, er, objectify women as they sometimes seem to have when talking about blokes they fancy because, as we all know, equality for women is all in the mind and the lack of it is not at all a continuing issue in the world today.
You can tell yourselves that your immediate reactions to the news of Sharon Tuff's appointment, her arrival in your world, is no different to how you'd react if it had been a man appointed.
You can all be up in arms when there's even a hint that someone has - no doubt deliberately - mistaken your gentle humour for something with a less appealing undertone.
You can huff and puff about people being on their high horses when the humourless *******s dare to call you out on your banter denigrating a woman's appearance rather than anything to do with her ability to do the job, just like you all doubtless immediately called John Henry a speccy **** and Tom Werner a fat tosser rather than concentrating on their money and connections and business records and of course everyone here immediately said Linda Pizzuti must have a lot of good qualities and no one ever obsessed solely about the way she looks.
And who knows, maybe you'd even be right about all that.
But whether or not that's true, what puzzles me is if you're so affronted to be told that, er, maybe this sort of banter isn't quite the innocent, harmless fun you all believe it to be, why are you so keen to shoot at the people suggesting it might be a good idea to tone it down? Don't you think it could be worth considering that they might actually have a point? I mean, if you're all so enthusiastic to defend your non-sexist credentials then maybe, just maybe, it would be worth being cautious about immediately judging a woman on her looks...
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I don't think the intention is to shut it down. Just make people aware when some feel uncomfortable.Originally posted by Kenneth View PostWell if the collective will is to shut down mildly sexist conversation then it would be preferable if you did that and spared us the filibuster approach.
Also, I'll probably section off part of this debate if there is the want for it over the weekend.*Except Michael, who died.
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Oh do behave. Why do you think girls get in to older boys while boys are still playing with toys?Originally posted by G View PostI'm with Kenneth on this. (Some) blokes discuss how women look .Some women also discuss how blokes look(less often)
Not sure I see anything else going on here, apart from moral grandstanding.
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Not being one I was just guessing based on having not seeing them do it as much as me and my mates would for example. But then I have seen hen's party's on a few occasions so maybe they are like us, just not as open about it until they are with a load of mates and full of alcohol.Originally posted by Norbs View PostOh do behave. Why do you think girls get in to older boys while boys are still playing with toys?
Or maybe they are exactly like us.
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They're exactly like men IMO, fully capable of being pervy, letchy, cruel and cutting, and anything else that is acceptable for women but is a flaw in men.Originally posted by G View PostNot being one I was just guessing based on having not seeing them do it as much as me and my mates would for example. But then I have seen hen's party's on a few occasions so maybe they are like us, just not as open about it until they are with a load of mates and full of alcohol.
Or maybe they are exactly like us.
I suggest to anyone on here to look on the 'perving' thread on here to see there's a little bit of hypocrisy in here
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Believe me, they are worse than "us"Originally posted by G View PostNot being one I was just guessing based on having not seeing them do it as much as me and my mates would for example. But then I have seen hen's party's on a few occasions so maybe they are like us, just not as open about it until they are with a load of mates and full of alcohol.
Or maybe they are exactly like us.
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