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    #76
    Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
    You guys can all convince yourselves that everything's all right, that you're all totally non-sexist, that you don't lazily objectify women and that all you want is the same right to, er, objectify women as they sometimes seem to have when talking about blokes they fancy because, as we all know, equality for women is all in the mind and the lack of it is not at all a continuing issue in the world today.

    You can tell yourselves that your immediate reactions to the news of Sharon Tuff's appointment, her arrival in your world, is no different to how you'd react if it had been a man appointed.

    You can all be up in arms when there's even a hint that someone has - no doubt deliberately - mistaken your gentle humour for something with a less appealing undertone.

    You can huff and puff about people being on their high horses when the humourless *******s dare to call you out on your banter denigrating a woman's appearance rather than anything to do with her ability to do the job, just like you all doubtless immediately called John Henry a speccy **** and Tom Werner a fat tosser rather than concentrating on their money and connections and business records and of course everyone here immediately said Linda Pizzuti must have a lot of good qualities and no one ever obsessed solely about the way she looks.

    And who knows, maybe you'd even be right about all that.

    But whether or not that's true, what puzzles me is if you're so affronted to be told that, er, maybe this sort of banter isn't quite the innocent, harmless fun you all believe it to be, why are you so keen to shoot at the people suggesting it might be a good idea to tone it down? Don't you think it could be worth considering that they might actually have a point? I mean, if you're all so enthusiastic to defend your non-sexist credentials then maybe, just maybe, it would be worth being cautious about immediately judging a woman on her looks...
    "Justice has been done."

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      #77
      Ok lads, just admit it, you objectify women. At least be honest with yourselves and stop telling yourselves you're not partial to a bit of low level sexism. And stop trying to have it both ways.
      .
      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



      May the Lord bless this post.

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        #78
        Originally posted by SERVO2 View Post
        Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha seriously u blokes are hilarious!!!!

        So judging from some of the comments it is obviously how fit Robbie Fowler was rather than her 3 min hat-trick which got me interested in LFC...

        Oh ok!!!

        Cheers

        Rach
        Cheers for clarifying Rach

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          #79
          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
          Ok lads, just admit it, you objectify women. At least be honest with yourselves and stop telling yourselves you're not partial to a bit of low level sexism. And stop trying to have it both ways.
          Ok, have it your way. File me under 'sexist' if it helps you to classify me for future arguments

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            #80
            Hello Norbs.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Norbs View Post
              Ok, have it your way. File me under 'sexist' if it helps you to classify me for future arguments
              Actually I wasn't.

              But you seem so insistent that you're not yet I can't square it with your behaviour.

              Oh yeah, I forgot, women talk about sex too. So that means men can't be sexist, right?

              Duh.
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              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



              May the Lord bless this post.

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                #82
                When u can play football the way God did you don't need looks!!!!

                That hat trick ruined football for me as I tend to refuse we will loose until the 93rd minute - doh!!!

                Your all an odd bunch - you would comment on a blokes appearance if you had photos - so not as offensive as some people but anyone who thinks that even unconsciously thinks this isn't a sexist thread at all really needs to have a think!!!

                That's what I like about EST it's the balance when people go OTT someone tries to reign them in. No-ones perfect but people aren't!

                I'm not sure what the funniest comment was the David Beckham or the "they're worst than us" comments!! Ha ha ha but hey ho the floors are scrubbed, tea has been cooked I just need to so the ironing!!

                Cheers

                Rach

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                  Actually I wasn't.

                  But you seem so insistent that you're not yet I can't square it with your behaviour.

                  Oh yeah, I forgot, women talk about sex too. So that means men can't be sexist, right?

                  Duh.
                  You keep insisting that I own up to being a sexist, I have and yet you still insist I'm denying it

                  Double duh

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                    #84
                    I haven't commented on her at all, neither her appearance or her ability to do the job, am I sexist?

                    I just feel confused

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                      #85
                      I like sex.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by SERVO2 View Post
                        When u can play football the way God did you don't need looks!!!!

                        That hat trick ruined football for me as I tend to refuse we will loose until the 93rd minute - doh!!!

                        Your all an odd bunch - you would comment on a blokes appearance if you had photos - so not as offensive as some people but anyone who thinks that even unconsciously thinks this isn't a sexist thread at all really needs to have a think!!!

                        That's what I like about EST it's the balance when people go OTT someone tries to reign them in. No-ones perfect but people aren't!

                        I'm not sure what the funniest comment was the David Beckham or the "they're worst than us" comments!! Ha ha ha but hey ho the floors are scrubbed, tea has been cooked I just need to so the ironing!!

                        Cheers

                        Rach
                        Don't forget to bathe the kids...

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by G View Post
                          I haven't commented on her at all
                          I havent commented on her at all either* but I am watching porn


                          *I don't think, but I have been out for beers this week so who knows
                          Football without Origi is nothing

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by SERVO2 View Post
                            When u can play football the way God did you don't need looks!!!!

                            That hat trick ruined football for me as I tend to refuse we will loose until the 93rd minute - doh!!!

                            Your all an odd bunch - you would comment on a blokes appearance if you had photos - so not as offensive as some people but anyone who thinks that even unconsciously thinks this isn't a sexist thread at all really needs to have a think!!!

                            That's what I like about EST it's the balance when people go OTT someone tries to reign them in. No-ones perfect but people aren't!

                            I'm not sure what the funniest comment was the David Beckham or the "they're worst than us" comments!! Ha ha ha but hey ho the floors are scrubbed, tea has been cooked I just need to so the ironing!!

                            Cheers

                            Rach
                            God was at a level above mere mortals

                            I would comment on a blokes photo the same as any other comment on a photo

                            I' m far from perfect. But I am here and I am here now. Tomorrow, who knows

                            You know the truth behind " they are worse than us"

                            Why are you trying to stereotype "yourselves" with ironing, cleaning cooking etc... my missus is useless at most and will freely admit it. But then again it is not an an issue for me. I married her for what she is, not for what it is perceived she can do

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                              #89
                              Actually, bull**** Neil. I'm not sexist, all I said was that it was difficult to see in the picture but that the signs were that she had a great chest. I'm pretty sure you've posted on here before that your a boobs man and I'm struggling to see the difference between admitting to like boobs and to identifying that trait in an individual.

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Norbs View Post
                                Actually, bull**** Neil. I'm not sexist, all I said was that it was difficult to see in the picture but that the signs were that she had a great chest. I'm pretty sure you've posted on here before that your a boobs man and I'm struggling to see the difference between admitting to like boobs and to identifying that trait in an individual.
                                Ha ha ha ha this is a FOOTBALL website - this is a FOOTBALL thread about LFC management but your talking about what her TITS POSSIBLY look like... Yeah people are going to think this is sexist!! You might not mean it to be - which is kind of my point but it is what it is!!!

                                As a woman I'm not offended - but it shouldn't stop me challenging your view - it's just the way it is!!

                                Cheers

                                Rach

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