I'm not sure we can read much into last night's game - Exeter were really poor.
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Some things you can judge others you cantOriginally posted by danperkins View Post
impossible to judge, any of us on here could have comfortably been playing CB for LFC last night and had a easy ride.
Positionally he was excellent last night, particularly when you bear in mind he had Enrique next to him!!!
He also read the game well and his passing was decent
That said we didnt see much of him in the air or how he would deal with physical players
To me hes someone I would definitely keep for at least another year and see what developsBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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He did well with the limited amount he had to do, lovely bit of covering near the end aswell. Was nice to have a commentary team who hadn't decided he was **** without even seeing him because he "couldn't get in the Villa team" aswell.
Give him a league game, Toure has no future here as well as he's played recently, this lad may do, we need to find out.
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Impossible to judge last night as they had nothing to do & sure even Enrique looked decent, but yeah worth while keeping him around and seeing how he progresses.Originally posted by Lecter View PostSome things you can judge others you cant
Positionally he was excellent last night, particularly when you bear in mind he had Enrique next to him!!!
He also read the game well and his passing was decent
That said we didnt see much of him in the air or how he would deal with physical players
To me hes someone I would definitely keep for at least another year and see what develops
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Originally posted by danperkins View PostImpossible to judge last night as they had nothing to do & sure even Enrique looked decent, but yeah worth while keeping him around and seeing how he progresses.
I'd like to see him given some more cup games against better sides and maybe some sub appearences in the PL if the situation in the game is appropriate.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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Originally posted by danperkins View PostImpossible to judge last night as they had nothing to do & sure even Enrique looked decent, but yeah worth while keeping him around and seeing how he progresses.
Absolute ****ing rubbish
You can judge position and you can see how comfortable and good on the ball he isBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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Yikes sorry for disagreeing with you and having a different view... ffs LecOriginally posted by Lecter View PostAbsolute ****ing rubbish
You can judge position and you can see how comfortable and good on the ball he is
Enrique looked like Beckenbauer out there man. We knew Illori was quick and good on the ball previous to this game so it's not news. Both CB's looked good but they were not tested in the slightest, so IMO you certainly couldn't judge whether he was good positionally or if he could read the game well... as they had nothing do.
To be fair they could have went off to McDonalds for half an hour and came back without anyone even noticing that they left.
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Yeah definitely mate. I know a lot of people have talked about his pace. God knows finding a lightening quick CB is like gold dust. He's decent on the ball too. Be very interesting to see what he is like when tested against decent opposition. The cups are a great option for IlloriOriginally posted by Exiled_red View Post
I'd like to see him given some more cup games against better sides and maybe some sub appearences in the PL if the situation in the game is appropriate.
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Originally posted by danperkins View PostYikes sorry for disagreeing with you and having a different view... ffs Lec
Enrique looked like Beckenbauer out there man. We knew Illori was quick and good on the ball previous to this game so it's not news. Both CB's looked good but they were not tested in the slightest, so IMO you certainly couldn't judge whether he was good positionally or if he could read the game well... as they had nothing do.
To be fair they could have went off to McDonalds for half an hour and came back without anyone even noticing that they left.
Of course you can judge positioning and reading a game
Its ****ing nonsense to say you couldnt
For instance if your right fullback is in X position then you should be in Y position - which he was
Or if your leftback was in X position and your centrehalf partner was in Y position then you should be in Z position - which he was
Defending and positional play is often subtle, but its still something not every player can do (Lovren / Skrtel)
Ilori kept the distances between him and Enrique short, he was ideally positioned for counters when the fullbacks bombed on
Its not rocket science to pick this up you know, football isnt all about what goes on when the ball is within 5 yards of a player
Second half Ilori covered a number of times for Enrique and got blocks in
Sometimes I really dont know what people expectBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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Originally posted by Lecter View PostOf course you can judge positioning and reading a game
Its ****ing nonsense to say you couldnt
For instance if your right fullback is in X position then you should be in Y position - which he was
Or if your leftback was in X position and your centrehalf partner was in Y position then you should be in Z position - which he was
Defending and positional play is often subtle, but its still something not every player can do (Lovren / Skrtel)
Ilori kept the distances between him and Enrique short, he was ideally positioned for counters when the fullbacks bombed on
Its not rocket science to pick this up you know, football isnt all about what goes on when the ball is within 5 yards of a player
Second half Ilori covered a number of times for Enrique and got blocks in
Sometimes I really dont know what people expect
I am firmly on Lecter's side with regard to Ilori. He has game reading and positional sense in abundance. Anyone with basic footballing knowlegde would be able to see this
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Good to hear the reviews on Ilori. I find it hard to judge a defender, don't know why but my brain just can't handle the information its getting from the eyes. Midfield and strikers I'm fine but I only spot a bad defender when he's doing (early) Lovren levels of obvious crap.
One tit for another.
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Originally posted by BigChief View PostGood to hear the reviews on Ilori. I find it hard to judge a defender, don't know why but my brain just can't handle the information its getting from the eyes. Midfield and strikers I'm fine but I only spot a bad defender when he's doing (early) Lovren levels of obvious crap.

Know what you mean, last night I hardly gave central defence a thought which I took as a good thing! Exeter only got in among them properly a couple of times though. That defensive triangle in front of the keeper - CB/CB/DM really should be like a good ref - only noticed when making an error.
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Ilori could get some sub game time as he could easily cover rb. His extra height would be useful defending corners late on, and his pace could help open the pitch up as he runs past the oppo midfield. Pacey enough to get back.removing all the weak links makes us stronger
too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.
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