Hull City Post match thread

[Norbs]

I do get where your coming from and personally I was cautious going into the game against Hull, probably beaten into me over the past few years! But it can work both ways, if we don't expect to beat Hull there is a problem

There are two very different ways of expecting to beat teams, with confidence where you play knowing full well your better and you show it (the way Arsenal have this season). Or to have a feeling of just being to good for the other team and not needing to prepare properly or even get out of 2nd gear expecting the result to be handed to you. (We seem to be guilty of this)

Hull's energy was great yesterday and they, like many others who press us had success with that tactic. Beyond our first XI we struggle for quality and that's down to Rodgers to a certain extent he maybe needs another window but not enough of his players have stepped up.

If the story about him wanting Williams and not Sakho is true then **** me I'm glad someone else is there to overpower in some cases. For me he needs to be playing week in week out next to Skrtel until one of them have a poor game, Agger has been indifferent if we're honest and I think those 2 at the minute are our best pairing.

Fair points. Perhaps it's better to prepare to beat someone as opposed to just turning up or fielding a weakened/experimental side. Hull were nursing wounds and we should've prepared for a backlash. I think we set ourselves up with flouncy flair players and expected them to make fools out of Hull. All teams can suffer this sort of surprise result but I think we're more susceptible, perhaps I just notice more when it happens to us.

[Muddled]

Let's just face facts, Brendan Rodgers got tactically outmaneuvered by Steve Bruce.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Fair points. Perhaps it's better to prepare to beat someone as opposed to just turning up or fielding a weakened/experimental side. Hull were nursing wounds and we should've prepared for a backlash. I think we set ourselves up with flouncy flair players and expected them to make fools out of Hull. All teams can suffer this sort of surprise result but I think we're more susceptible, perhaps I just notice more when it happens to us.

No I agree but I think Aspas would have fell more into that 'flair' description than Moses who I thought had done okay so far for us.

I'm not really too sure what other side Rodgers could have put out except for the back 4 with Coutinho not being ready, if we'd have been winning I don't think Coutinho would have came on. Almost for emergencies only.

But a team with Flanagan, Sterling, Moses and our midfield are never going to dominate a team who work as hard as Hull did. I think Flanagan has done well but I'm just including him because I don't see him getting near any of the other top sides XI's.

[Norbs]

No I agree but I think Aspas would have fell more into that 'flair' description than Moses who I thought had done okay so far for us.

I'm not really too sure what other side Rodgers could have put out except for the back 4 with Coutinho not being ready, if we'd have been winning I don't think Coutinho would have came on. Almost for emergencies only.

But a team with Flanagan, Sterling, Moses and our midfield are never going to dominate a team who work as hard as Hull did. I think Flanagan has done well but I'm just including him because I don't see him getting near any of the other top sides XI's.

Gawd knows who I'd have put in instead but then I'm not paid to make those decisions

I'd have probably gone 3 at the back with our 3 most adventurous CBs - Sakho, Agger and Toure. Then I'd have put 4 in midfield Moses, Gerrard, Lucas and Johnson. I'd have then put Suarez and Aspas upfront with Coutinho and expected us to get thrashed 11-0

[Assassin]

Let's just face facts, Brendan Rodgers got tactically outmaneuvered by Steve Bruce.

Aye

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Gawd knows who I'd have put in instead but then I'm not paid to make those decisions

I'd have probably gone 3 at the back with our 3 most adventurous CBs - Sakho, Agger and Toure. Then I'd have put 4 in midfield Moses, Gerrard, Lucas and Johnson. I'd have then put Suarez and Aspas upfront with Coutinho and expected us to get thrashed 11-0

It was a tough decision for Rodgers, mainly because his options were so limited with Sturridge injured and Coutinho not fit to play.

After seeing our line up I thought "I hope we get through this one" and I'm guessing loads more did as well, we'll definitely add more in January but before then we've got some tough games so I hope someone steps up. Looking at our options I can only see that being Moses or Aspas unless Alberto is given a go.

[Mostar]

Is the Twitter rumour not about Ashley Williams - rather that Brendan wanted attacking reinforcements, namely WILLIAN, but the club went and bought Sakho instead? I'm sure that's what I read.

Probably bollocks anyway. Rodgers and the club have said enough times that he has the final say over transfers.

I don't believe that for a second.

Committee would not buy a player that BR doesn't want but I do believe that there were players he wanted badly but the value that Committee placed on them ultimately led to us missing out on them.

[G]

Is the Twitter rumour not about Ashley Williams - rather that Brendan wanted attacking reinforcements, namely WILLIAN, but the club went and bought Sakho instead? I'm sure that's what I read.

Probably bollocks anyway. Rodgers and the club have said enough times that he has the final say over transfers.

Yeah I read that too but also that he did want a centre back as well and the one he wanted was Williams.

It's a bit like Assaidi and Sahin, he didn't want either of them and never played them/play them in their proper position as a result, Assaidi is obviously a bit ****e like but it's a familiar situation.

That fella has deleted a lot of tweets though for whatever reason. The only one that remains related to this is that whatever the issue with Sakho is, its "trivial and not for public consumption".

I fully expect Sakho to start against Norwich and stay there.

[Norbs]

Sakho gets altered to Saigon on my phone

[Mostar]

Yeah I read that too but also that he did want a centre back as well and the one he wanted was Williams.

It's a bit like Assaidi and Sahin, he didn't want either of them and never played them/play them in their proper position as a result, Assaidi is obviously a bit ****e like but it's a familiar situation.

That fella has deleted a lot of tweets though for whatever reason. The only one that remains related to this is that whatever the issue with Sakho is, its "trivial and not for public consumption".

I fully expect Sakho to start against Norwich and stay there.

Pretty much guaranteed to start.

It is still difficult to understand why he was dropped in the first place.

He goes and plays for France scores 2 goals and comes back with a great deal confidence and we dropped him not for one game but for 2 in a row.

[Norbs]

One game out per goal Mos. How dare the dirty vole go and play for his national side. Especially France

[Sarb]

Pretty much guaranteed to start.

It is still difficult to understand why he was dropped in the first place.

He goes and plays for France scores 2 goals and comes back with a great deal confidence and we dropped him not for one game but for 2 in a row.

Hope you are right and Sakho starts. Just saw Hull's 3rd goal. ****ing hell. Skrtel didnt need to throw his chest at the ball. Toure is about 10 yards away limping in a different direction. If it was another team I would be pissing myself laughing

[Chazza]

Hope you are right and Sakho starts. Just saw Hull's 3rd goal. ****ing hell. Skrtel didnt need to throw his chest at the ball. Toure is about 10 yards away limping in a different direction. If it was another team I would be pissing myself laughing

I have to admit I did laugh. It was ridiculous.

[Assassin]

I have to admit I did laugh. It was ridiculous.

I was thinking WTF the Hull forward has feigned injury and how the **** can he be onside. Then suddenly Toure stuck his head round the side of the tv screen

[Corndog]

I think a big problem in this game was that lucas and gerrard were sitting so deep and were quite static, we controlled the game so ive no idea why they didnt push up further and shorten the gap between them and the front 3. So many times toure/skrtel looked a bit bemused as they went to play the ball out from the back and there was very little movement directly in front of them.

Need a CM who can get the ball turn with it and run, one who is not so easily marked out of the game.

Gerrard has lost that dynamism now and looks to pass alot more. Lucas never had it, very limited in terms of offensive movement. Sure he is a DM but needs to be able to contribute more going forward in these games where the opposition sets up so defensively.