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The shot was blockable from TAA's position. Understand that he may of been worried about Sane playing the ball across the middle to Ageuro and was playing the percentages but I think that was the wrong call, Carra would have dived on the ball at Sane's feet.
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I don't think you can attach any blame to Trent, doing so is incredibly harsh. Allison maybe I can see a little bit but the strike was excellent and realistically I don't think you can expect a keeper to get that, it would've been an incredible save.Originally posted by foresterbloke View PostThe Anfield Wrap put more blame on TAA and Alisson than Lovren for the first. Lovren turned and saw Aguero on the floor. Also three crosses weren't dealt with before it was converted.
Lovren is of course the scapegoat.
I was absolutely fuming with Lovren at the time, and I still think he switched off and ball watched just for a second which let Aguero get in front of him, it's all well and good saying he thought Aguero was on the deck but he knew he was there and should have expected he would go for the ball.
That being said though I don't think it was as bad as some have made out, it was a mistake but one that many defenders would have made and in retrospect I feel a lot of the criticism Lovren got for it was harsh.
That straight ball at the end though, no excusing that.
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The Anfield Wrap put more blame on TAA and Alisson than Lovren for the first. Lovren turned and saw Aguero on the floor. Also three crosses weren't dealt with before it was converted.
Lovren is of course the scapegoat.
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More to the point, if Salah had scored that against them, no one would be saying it was the defender's fault.Originally posted by Gray View PostTotally agree, Augero's first touch was phenomenal. If it was Virgil marking him there wouldn't be any criticism whatsoever
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had a strong dislike for the guy before, full of himself, and him filming the croatian dressing room happily singing fascist songs during the world cup, did not endear him (or any of them) to me.
too slow to react to aguero for the first, and not holding the line for the second sums him up really.
the first goal can be sort of forgiven, as it was a suberb strike from a hard angle,
i still cant wait till he's out of the club really
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I thought Trent was just as bad if not worse .. Virgil just really highlights Dejans shortcomings much more rather than make him a better playerOriginally posted by vlahka View PostI think hes getting a little too much hate for what was a poor, but not super poor, performance. I mean hes had far worse. On that note I still want him gone.
I'd be amazed if he is not either moved on or moved down permanently this summer, there is a wiff of Skirtel about him now, unless he goes on a tear now with consistently solid performances and no Dejan moments. He needs put more composure in his game and believe in himself more. People forget him came to us with a reputation of being an amazing passer of the ball amougst other things, perhaps he can rediscover that aspect of his game again. I noticed he has being trying some amazing through balls over the last few games and they have come off.
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Originally posted by DeanoUK View PostGotta say irishnev and danperkins are spot on, as usual. I too don’t have much time for the guy.
Despite being in the moment sometimes and calling him all sorts, I simply don’t think he’s good enough. And that his statements to the press are either ill advised or badly translated, generally setting him up for an immediate comeuppance!
I don’t think he cost us the game either. He should’ve done better against Aguero, in my opinion, but the multitude of other mistakes he made didn’t ultimately lead to a goal. They were, however, indicative of his level and ability - not sufficient for the level we’re trying to attain.
- now if only we could teach Buzzo
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I think hes getting a little too much hate for what was a poor, but not super poor, performance. I mean hes had far worse. On that note I still want him gone.
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He really was poor yesterday, but he's been very good this year, much better than people give him credit for anyways, as he's an easy target due to his reputation from when he first joined. Picking on him because he's confident when answering questions that he's being asked is just ridiculous, as if he's somehow jinxed us or whatever? The fact that people somehow blame him for United's equalizer, for example, says it all.
The thing is, he's probably the best 3rd choice defender in the league, and that's exactly what he is - 3rd choice, a backup for Gomez, and since he was injured Lovren got to play yesterday.
Everyone is also forgetting he was facing probably the best attacking team in Europe, and yesterday they got the better of him. On the other end our front three were against ****in Danilo (!!!), an ancient Kompany who is fit to play every 1 in 4, John Stones whom everyone here considers to be a joke, and Laporte as left back, a decision by Pep which some of our fans actually celebrated yesterday! And they produced almost nothing, same as our midfield three. Not the first big game this season where that's happened, certainly more of those than of Lovren's **** performances. Maybe that's where some of the fume should be directed towards?
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Gotta say irishnev and danperkins are spot on, as usual. I too don’t have much time for the guy.
Despite being in the moment sometimes and calling him all sorts, I simply don’t think he’s good enough. And that his statements to the press are either ill advised or badly translated, generally setting him up for an immediate comeuppance!
I don’t think he cost us the game either. He should’ve done better against Aguero, in my opinion, but the multitude of other mistakes he made didn’t ultimately lead to a goal. They were, however, indicative of his level and ability - not sufficient for the level we’re trying to attain.
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Allison has made lots of unbelievable saves, well capable of it. Was a fabulous strike but I still think keeper can do better. Lovren asleep anyways and that lapse cost us.
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Originally posted by Tribute View Post...Aguero's shot was passed him before he knew it. Was like a bullet. Absolutely no chance of stopping that. If he'd got his hands to it, he'd have ended up in the back of the net with the ball...
Sometimes you just gotta give credit where it's due. Hell of a shot.
You'd normally say keeper at near post, but shot was a rocket. Would have been an unbelievable save.
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