Palace (a) post match thread

[Assassin]

[badpiggy]

This ****in passing it around between the back 4 is doing my head in. When better teams press us, we panic - like we do constantly in every defensive situation - and give it away. When ****e teams like Palace sit back, we do the exact same. We don't need to be pressed and harried in our own half because there is noone to link back to front in any sort of dynamic way. (I have hope that Can might.) I actually think that Gerrard, while not the cause of our problems, is a physical and psychological weight around our necks now. He's being accommodated for no good footballing reason.

[Roboklopp]

I want Kolo!!

Pretty sure he's into girls mate.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Another infuriating point is what have we got to show for £110m? Not even a glimmer, potential with Can in CM and same with the full backs, one of which we don't own.

[badpiggy]

In fairness to Joe Allen, he really did try to link up play today but we're either tortuously slow in getting it to him or we break up play and give it to SG who dawdles around for no clear reason or Allen is not demanding the ball or he's not in a position to receive the ball.

[Assassin]

[Lecter]

To pick out Allen after that game is laughable. We have so many other glaring issues. Skrtel is such a liability, it's beyond a joke now. Mignolet the same but we have no replacement.

The biggest issues are what Carragher picked out

We are regularly physically bullied in games and that happens all over the pitch

To me Allen is one of our weakest physical players

Skrtel and Lovren are all over the gaff, individually they are woeful but together they are a total cluster****

To me there are some players that shouldnt be near the starting 11, Johnson, Lovren, Allen, Borini. Gerrard I would also take out and give Lucas a go and see how it goes although I cant say I am massively convinced that it will make a significant difference

[Roboklopp]

Why so many pics of Bodge?

[ChrisDR1968]

Gerrard out for Lucas/Can/Henderson

Lovren out for Toure/Sakho

Johnson out for Moreno

I think that improves us immediately

It seems the only way Rodgers is going to do all that is if FSG orders him to!

[~LFCHistory~]

And give Valdes whatever assurances he ****ing wants. His presence alone would lift the team.

Yeah I'm sure Valdes or any other keeper would flourish here with Skrtel, Lovren, Johnson and Gerrard in front of them.

[Leyton388]

Why so many pics of Bodge?

He steadys ships mate.

[marcus50bucks]

It looked at times first half we were playing 2 up top but second half he quickly reverted to 1 up top

People will no doubt think Allen played well but for me he's so neutral. Doesn't win enough possession, isn't physical enough, get shrugged off the ball easily, when he gets possession first thought is play it sideways or backwards

There is little or no pressure on the ball, we don't compete for second balls and defensively we are a shambles.

People talk about Gerrard being done but to me that could also apply to Lovren and Johnson who are anonymous week in week out

You can't afford to carry players and week in week out we carry 3 or 4

I am not convinced he's gonna turn this round. He drops players who should be playing and persists with those who shouldnt

I am increasingly worried that he won't turn it around. His team selections, substitutions are bizarre. He looks void of ideas and doesn't seem to be able to fix the problem. I also think he is stubborn which will be his downfall in the end. 12 games, 14 points and four losses (3 in the league) in a row is absolutely unacceptable.

[cream]

In fairness to Joe Allen, he really did try to link up play today but we're either tortuously slow in getting it to him or we break up play and give it to SG who dawdles around for no clear reason or Allen is not demanding the ball or he's not in a position to receive the ball.

Allen was good today. Not sure why he and Lallana got subbed off, I think Rodgers is purposely trying to get the sack.

[McDermotX]

Why so many pics of Bodge?

To remind people of the good times ?

[Lecter]

Which was mostly down to Suarez and Sturridge.

Glad we agree

Some of it was down to them but imo Sterling and Henderson have dropped off in terms of pressing and creating and I dont think that has anything to do with Suarez and Sturridge

The players pressed against Spurs without Suarez and they do it sporadically in some games but then they drop off and we go to ****