Does Rodgers deserve another season?

[Scratch]

A new season, without Stevie, will be a blessing for Rodgers I think. The last big personality in the dressing room gone...as great a player as Gerrard has been, I do think this season he has been over used, and part of me thinks that was because Rodgers HAD to play him else risk losing the dressing room completely (just a feeling, nothing more).

It's no secret that Gerrard feels he has more to offer (hence not accepting a bit part role) and I wonder if Stevie didn't have a lot of the players on his side in that debate, and that Rodgers wasn't strong enough to bench Gerrard.

Don't get me wrong, I think Gerrard was a great player, if not the greatest to ever pull on a Liverpool shirt. But the Gerrard of this year has seemed lethargic and down, like the effects of missing out last season have broken him. Another year older, another yard slower...I think that even next season, in the MLS, he will not be a key player. Age catches up with us all, and I think this season it caught up with Steve.

[Muddled]

A new season, without Stevie, will be a blessing for Rodgers I think. The last big personality in the dressing room gone...as great a player as Gerrard has been, I do think this season he has been over used, and part of me thinks that was because Rodgers HAD to play him else risk losing the dressing room completely (just a feeling, nothing more).

Absolutely. I think we'll see a few more players step up to the mark now.

The only real concern is our next central midfield purchase and the pressure that will come with being 'the next Steven Gerrard'.

[Red_Polo]

We havent created anywhere near the chances though this season

Thats my worry, people will obviously point to meaningless stats about chances which in reality just mean long range hit and hope shots but in terms of clear cut chances we are miles behind last season

Yes a goalscorer would improve things but unless he is like Suarez creating his own chances then I dont think it will be enough

Don't you think half the trouble with us not creating chances is the forwards not making the right runs though? Not just to hit with passes, but to get defenders turning and open space for others. I think a quality striker would be worth a lot more to us than the goals than they could score for themselves.

[Muddled]

Don't you think half the trouble with us not creating chances is the forwards not making the right runs though? Not just to hit with passes, but to get defenders turning and open space for others. I think a quality striker would be worth a lot more to us than the goals than they could score for themselves.

Look how much better we looked when Lambert played recently. Whilst he wasn't on the score sheet, it was his running that improved our attack. A higher calibre of striker and the whole team benefits.

[Ams12]

This is a tough one! Would we see more performances like last season if Rodgers is allowed another year with 2 top strikers?

Or will his lack of defensive know how and weak midfield lead to another collapse of a season?

The other thing to think about is losing all the players we are this summer and trying to move on all the players who are not good enough. That's a fair few from the squad gone! Do we trust this transfer set up to set us up for the next few seasons or will we have the same issues at the end of next season? If we can get in a decent proven manager this year then we could give him a better transfer budget to shape the squad and transfer policy for the next 3-5 years. Otherwise we will be rebuilding again in 12 months time!

On that point i would say thank you for a smashing season last year BR but it is time to move this club forwards again.

[Marvel]

Its been the same for years, its not some new internet thing

As I mentioned before, it currently feels like when we gave Houllier and Rafa another season it has that same drawn out inevitability about it. There is almost an air of resignation inside Anfield at matches

People arent just dissatisfied with results, they are dissatisfied with performances, signings, tactics, etc...

Its almost all encompassing and its why I feel it will be difficult for him to turn around unless he absolutely hits the ground running and why I feel it would be best to part company now

The scale of the job now is as big as when Rodgers took over, imo hes virtually starting again from scratch if he stays

Thats why I feel the timing is right to explore other avenues

That said I still feel FSG will keep him

The gap between us and the top four will be even bigger next season. If Rodgers couldn't bridge it this season what makes people think he can close an even bigger gap next season.

He isn't a manager who can punch above his weight and consistently deliver results against the odds. He hasn't shown he can stop the teams with bigger budgets and better players than us. There will always be the argument based around our financial clout and 5th being par for where we are because we have the fifth highest wage bill. We need a manager who can play against better teams than us and still compete. Someone who sees it as a challenge and not an excuse.

If he stays i will get behind the team but i don't expect anything to change.

[RichC]

We finished 7th in his first season and 2nd in his next season. To say he couldn't bridge the gap after doing it once before is foolish, he might not manage it BUT he has done it before.

[Phoenix07]

He'll have extra games from the Europa League to deal with next season, which he didn't have last season.

In that sense, it's a different set of circumstances.

[RichC]

He will have to deal with them, simple as that. Can he do it again I honestly don't know but writing him off not being able to do it when there is a very recent instance of him doing just that is a bit silly.

Fwiw I'm not 100% sure he will be here next season at the moment

[Kenneth]

He'll have extra games from the Europa League to deal with next season, which he didn't have last season.

In that sense, it's a different set of circumstances.

One of those being the loss of a £70m striker. He obviously won't have one of them next season either.

[Marvel]

We finished 7th in his first season and 2nd in his next season. To say he couldn't bridge the gap after doing it once before is foolish, he might not manage it BUT he has done it before.

The majority of last season goes down to the brilliance of 1 maybe 2 individual players. you look at this years balls up and then you ask yourself if Rodgers was really such a brilliant manager why do look completely clueless. At the weekend palace were better than us in every department - defence, midfield and attack.

If this seasons woes are just down to Daniel sturridges injuries, why are the other areas of our team so weak. We scored 101 goals or something last year - how didn't we win the league.

[RichC]

The majority of last season goes down to the brilliance of 1 maybe 2 individual players. you look at this years balls up and then you ask yourself if Rodgers was really such a brilliant manager why do look completely clueless. At the weekend palace were better than us in every department - defence, midfield and attack.

If this seasons woes are just down to Daniel sturridges injuries, why are the other areas of our team so weak. We scored 101 goals or something last year - how didn't we win the league.

In your opinion maybe I however think it was more than that quite a few players showed how capable they were in the side Sterling, luis obvously, Coutinho, Henderson and others - look at the MOM threads and you also have to credit the manager for getting the most out of the players.

You've changed the argument who mentioned about winning the league previously ? We didn't win it because we were 2nd best we were 7th best the season before hence he's shown he can bridge the gap as you said earlier.

Simple fact is you don't rate Rodgers and that's fine but your arguments so far are either baseless I.e. The bridge the gap comment or you change them to suit when you get pulled up on them I.e winning the league.

[Marvel]

In your opinion maybe I however think it was more than that quite a few players showed how capable they were in the side Sterling, luis obvously, Coutinho, Henderson and others - look at the MOM threads and you also have to credit the manager for getting the most out of the players.

You've changed the argument who mentioned about winning the league previously ? We didn't win it because we were 2nd best we were 7th best the season before hence he's shown he can bridge the gap as you said earlier.

Simple fact is you don't rate Rodgers and that's fine but your arguments so far are either baseless I.e. The bridge the gap comment or you change them to suit when you get pulled up on them I.e winning the league.

Did he bridge the gap this year. We were humiliated by arsenal, one of the ****test united teams beat us 3-0 away. we have come up short in all the crunch games in the league, champions league, FA cup.

Every game we needed to win at a crucial time we lost. If that's your idea of a top manager youre welcome to him. Hes nowhere near the genius he claims himself to be. But for some reason people like you think he is.

Youre right I dont rate him. Not one bit. But as long as you do that's all that matters.

[RichC]

I've not said I do rate him Im just pointing out the flaws in your PoV of which seems to change with the wind.

Enjoy your coaching

[Marvel]

I've not said I do rate him Im just pointing out the flaws in your PoV of which seems to change with the wind.

Enjoy your coaching

Thanks

You enjoy your Brenda